World: r3wp

I believe the file size is configurable by the world owner isn't 
it?

I haven't seen any setting where I can change the size.

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Something really weird happened to my AltMe instalations. 

Rebol3 and R3-Alpha opened as if it was the first time. It is downloading 
every messages again. Does anybody know what could cause this?

what OS?

Is your hard drive okay?

Hard drive is fine.
OS is XP.
R2-beta world did not do the reload all.

Starting from shortcuts? Or has anything changed that could point 
them to a new working dir?

Starting from shortcuts. No new changes.

If you go to files and browse to upload, is the base dir the same 
as it always has been?

I think I've seen this, but can't remember the details.

The upside is that the way AltMe works, the only thing you lose is 
a little bandwidth for a while. :-)

Also, there was an outage that may have caused something odd if you 
were on. I don't know any internals, but some state could have been 
mucked up with the lookup server being down I suppose.

Nothing strange here though.

Yes, I did hear problems with other people connecting to ALtme.
The base of the files are in the same places.

No fresh ideas here then.

There was something good about this, I noticed that it also refreshed 
a few groups that were not refreshing before. Just a few of them.

There you go. A silver lining. :-)

The next time one of you think that you are not seeing updates in 
group, instead of posting a ".", please try something for me to see 
if this works.  Just change yoru max message setting, say from "100" 
to "500" or even "1,000".  I just noticed something that might explain 
this bug....

I've never seen this bug :)

Cool, but others do, which is why they post a "."  Perhaps we can 
lock in on how to reproduce it.

Or, we can ban them ...

Well, I'll do my best to help them first...

Today one of our worlds lost its name registration, even if yesterday 
I was there. Shouldn't it keep the world name reserved for 10 days? 
:-)

so we recreated the world, and the good thing is, that it mapped 
correctly onto existing user and group settings.

This used to happen to me on a very regular basis when I was running 
more than one world.  Seems to have stabilized for me now though. 
 IIf you are running multiple worlds, you will only be able to get 
it registered to the proper port if you re-register the world while 
the other ports are in use..   For example if your world was sitting 
on the third port that gets assigned, you would need to have your 
first and second worlds running when you re-register, otherwise it 
will re-register you to the first port and you'll be hand-cuffed.

no other world is running on the same physical hardware. But it already 
happened in the past. Simply put - 10 days timeout is not correct.

Would you prefer ads?

Or just pay for it.

that is not about paying or not, that is about apparent bug of the 
system ....

It is an illusive bug.  There seems to be an odd set of circumstances 
that cause it.  It is logged though.

One thing is clear - our world was not available, wifi node was down. 
So at that time, there might be some check, and the rest depends 
on engine at Safeworlds. It is just that upon the description, the 
world name should be reserved for 10 days, while it was not even 
24 hours. But it was not a problem to renew. We just re-registered 
the world, and it mapped to the data of our world, without any problem 
...

We are not questioning it should be what it says "10 days"

We are trying to figure out why it times out even though you used 
it in the 10 day window.

Reichart - what kind of database is used at the back end? When I 
log to my world, what happens there? Is it logged back to DB? Or 
is it just in-memory database?

I really don't want to explain "how" things work... nor try to debug 
any product with customers.  However, all information you have about 
what was happening when you tried to log in is helpful...


There is a tendancy for doctors to act as doctors, even when they 
are the patient.

Reichart, I was curious as to what kind of development is going on 
with Altme. Isn't it pretty much what it is?

That is, it is what it is?

Or is it like the Amiga which never dies : -)

So you don't want to debug with customers, yet you expect information? 
:-) Well, everything was said already. Our world was not available 
for something like 24 hours or less. When I was trying to connect 
to the world, I got message "the world does not exist". Then I checked 
via altme.com/check.html, and the site confirmed the name is available, 
hence expired. I guess I can't do more on my side ....

Yes, it is not a two way street.  

I appreciate all you have stated...

James, there is more being done with AltME...

Does anybody know what character encoding AltME uses uner Mac? It 
is clearly different from the one used in Windows.

I think MacRoman: http://www.ross-gill.com/techniques/entities/mac/

Thanks, Chris. That explains the results that I saw.

Repeat of a post I made here almost a year ago.....And it is still 
not obvious how a newcomer joins this world. It's a huge blindspot 
in the otherwise welcoming REBOL community:

There is no simple, obvious, method of joining this world....

....If you discover it via the REBOL.net archive, there is no info 
at all about joining
http://www.rebol.net/altweb/rebol3/


....If you find it via the REBOL.org archive, there is a note in 
the Help page about requesting membership via the Mailing List.....So 
first, you got to join the ML and it has to be working that day :-(

Let's come up with something better guys!


My opening suggestion.....membership can be requested by sending 
an email to a specific gmail account that the Admins here monitor.

Why not a simple Rebol plugin form that auto-emails the details to 
the defined admins of this world?  Since it's a RT world, they could 
host?  ;-)

no no are you all mad ? Rebol world must stay unknown by the plebe 
 ;-)

so that we cant remain between Jedi.
No need new padawans...

we should ask to Master Carl at first

Sunanada...agreed...

I already suggested it directly to Carl in the past, and he agreed. 
Small note of how to join would be sufficient. One really has to 
wonder, why such simple thing was not sorted out ...