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rp-pppoe.so
 is a separate file missing from ppp-beta1.zip.

All I know is that this is enough for PPPoE

Here's the site for pppd:

http://ppp.samba.org

Kaj: Maybe those Russians ported something.

Invisibly.

No, this was ported by our German star programmer

If you look for documentation of a version around five years old, 
it should match this version

Hmm. How one could find it... Hmm hmm hmm but anyway ultimately pppd/pppoe 
should be re-ported for Syllable, with full source code.

This seems to be a query: pppd 2007 manuals

Ahh. Google has options for date range.

Yes, we need many re-ports, unfortunately. We've always tried to 
centralise development as much as possible, but there's still much 
chaos in a volunteer project

Linux docs from 2006 still mention rp-pppoe.so which is hosted at 
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/pppoe

In Linux, PPPoE support is a kernel module, separate from pppd. I 
don't know if that's the Roaring Penguin implementation, possibly 
not

The Syllable package also has a kernel module. I would guess it's 
a port from the Linux module

Ubuntu has RP. I will now check gNewSense.

Did you run the installation scriptlet?

Ah. I got it. I will try to specify that "ppp/if" as a substitute 
for rp-pppoe.so.

Rebooting into Sy.

It's a kernel module, not a user space library

Kaj: Of course I ran it.

As far as I know, it's not RP

ok

Just checking :-)

I think you're hampered by knowledge. :-) Our Russion users who got 
it to work were plain users

gNewSense uses rp-pppoe.so

Just checked it.

Syllable doesn't!

Note that there's no speed option used in the LFS instructions

Kaj: there is a way to specify speed. When you pass a natural number 
as an option to pppd, it considers it as a speed (baud rate) setting.

OK, but do you need it, if LFS doesn't?

Syllable pppd complained about _pty_ having a 0 baud rate setting, 
which is invalid condition and pppd exits. Therefore I added a speed 
option.

But a virtual terminal pty0 is not what we want --- we need Ethernet 
card instead of pty. And to specify an Ethernet card, LFS instructions 
use "plugin rp-pppoe.so eth0"

pty, pseudo tty (terminal enulator).

Without this "plugin" line, pppd starts to send packets right into 
pty (i.e. to the screen).

I will try specifying "if" there, nevertheless. "man pppd" AFAIR 
says it's a privileged mode library

ppp_if is the kernel interface. It should be a virtual network interface. 
Could you check that it's installed in /system/drivers/net/if/ ?

I will reboot and try. AFAIU it's installed.

There.

If you didn't reboot yet, it's likely that the kernel module hasn't 
been loaded

I rebooted.

I'm not at Syllable as I cannot set up internet there.

Everything else is fully automatic. You shouldn't do anything with 
ppp_if

I am away rebooting.

Hm, the LFS example also uses RP. It's possible you can simply compile 
that on Syllable, but I never heard anyone did that

Ah, there seems to be an rp-pppoe.so plugin that emulates RP:

http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/wiki/PPP

Maybe it isn't in the Syllable package because that needs the Linux 
kernel module and it isn't ported

In that case, ppp_if is just the virtual network interface for PPP

And the next step would be to try to compile RP