World: r3wp

OMG !!! 

As of the current version with the full CLI and internal functions, 
the operating system binary is only 16384 bytes. 


A standard "Hello, World!" example compiles to a file of only 31 
bytes.

Don't tell Carl about return infinity, he'll think REBOL is too bloated.

Qt has some really nice ideas in it. Note the importance they place 
on being able to create slick GUIs, but with the note that business 
apps only need a little slickeness around the edges. And the prominence 
of a state machine engine at the core.

I also thought the guis looked a lot like rebol.

Anything we can use?

Was this an open source development or a Nokia team that did this?

It's C++ oriented, but they have some new higher-level stuff. e.g. 
the declarative UI dialect Petr mentioned.

Qt was developed by norwegian company Trolltech starting in 1991, 
and was acquired by Nokia in 2008.

How big is the package? I do remember some talks about using Qt as 
a potential View replacement, but IIRC BrianH expressed, that integrating 
Qt with REBOL would be difficult.

You can look at http://qt.nokia.com/downloadsand choose "Go LGPL". 
A few 100 MB, it seems. But there are many modules: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28framework%29#Modules
Maybe only a fracton is needed?

*fraction*

Was the thesis that integrating Qt would be more than writing R3gui?

starting in 1991... ok, if we are allowed to develop on the R3 GUI 
for 19 years, we can probably get pretty far :-)

Are Danes better programmers than Norwegians?  :)

Of course! ;P

:-D

I guess the FInns are smarter ... as they just buy up the programmers 
they need :)

L4: Well, it's interesting and done by the university in the City 
I live in. So, no big deal, to get in contact with these guys.

With host-kit I would like to see a baremetal version of R3 :-) That 
would be extremly cool.

I see OS written in assembly as extermly bad decision for any sane 
kind of scaling ....

I still think, that the best base, albeit commercial, is QNX - lot's 
of target embedded platforms covered ... REBOL could co-work-with, 
or replace Photon GUI ... I want View app in my car, then calling 
Cyphre and lamenting about some bug :-)

hm... BareMetal CLI is maybe 16kB, but it eats all CPU from one core 
just waiting for commands.

But they have colors in the console.. something I always wanted to 
have in REBOL (of course under Win as Linux have color support)

the baremetal OS uses a different approach... it launches small tasks 
on one core per process... which is how all dev should be.


all it needs is an api to have two threads to communicate and voila... 
also notice that the apps sit at the same level as the os, so they 
have much more leverage on the HW (with added responsibility)

though its mission is clear... its not the basis for a gui OS... 
you can write one over it I guess.

cool,  Carl and Rebol are mentioned in this interview with Trevor 
Dickinson from A-Eon Technology.... 


he's part of the top 3 amiga people A-Eon would hire in their team 
if they had the funds.   :-)
he also mentions the porting of Rebol to Amiga 4.

mentionned at a bit after 20:00 in.


http://www.amigaz.org/2010/09/12/art-episode-47-a-sunday-with-trevor/

the only other Named ( living ) person is Dave Heynie.

hmm, and the situation with ARM family is becoming better and better 
- Marvell releases new CPU - 200mil triangles = 3D FullHD (two simultaneous 
FullHD streams) ....


http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/23/marvell-unveils-1-5ghz-triple-core-application-processor-all-cu/


We should get ourselves to ARM, it starts to be powerfull enough 
for even higher-end devices, not just cell-phones :-) And Amiga should 
finally abandon PPC too. If they fear x86 as being a general CPU, 
fearing users using Windows (totally stupid argument btw), they should 
go ARM too :-)

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_40/b4197040487856.htm


HP is giving away a free Android tablet which is also used to control 
the printer you buy to get the "freebie"

HP and Android? I would expect WebOS :-)

This is a pre webos product http://blog.laptopmag.com/hands-on-with-hps-photosmart-estation-printer-and-its-detachable-android-tablet-video

http://www.osnews.com/story/23832/HP_Slate_vs_Samsung_Galaxy_Tab_or_Why_HP_Bought_Palm_

So far it seems to me, that Samsung Galaxy tab is the only real competition 
to iPad ...

iPad seems to be consumer device ...

so, maybe there's a conflict in being able to design a very easy 
to use consumer device that also allows one to create content just 
as easily

Seagate release their hybrid SSD/hard drive for laptops http://www.seagate-space.com/issue_6/anz/downloads/sea_momentus_xt.pdf

software monitors which files are being used frequently and shifts 
it to the SSD

Just what I need for those long encap cycles I go thru

http://www.shweeb.com/index.php?m=vision


safe cycling as a modern form of transportation ... just got over 
$1M from google ....

Can't see it addressing those steep hills I go down to work and back.

Thanks for posting those Graham.

Virus/worm crashes Virgin Blue stranding passengers in Australia 
and NZ http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/australia/4170278/Virgin-Blue-passengers-stranded


No, they don't mention it was a worm, but they did on the TV broadcast 
I was watching just now.

http://blogs.blackberry.com/2010/09/blackberry-playbook/

Blackberry playbook using QNX as their OS

Rebol anyone?

wonder if it can run Amiga ?

James Heselden, owner of the company that makes the Segway, died 
Sunday morning... by driving a Segway off a cliff and into a river.

I find it strange that it took until now for someone to use QNX on 
a smartphone type mobile device.

(I know blackberry owns QNX)

the question is whether it will be relevant

Its probably a better device than the ipad, in all aspects.  I've 
used ribbon interfaces in some softwares and their use is very smooth. 
 

Our brain immediately uses positional memory, and even if we don't 
see things... we easily remember where they are (right of, left of).


QNX is probably the best OS out there, from the kernel point of view, 
at least. 


I can't see it being irrelevant.  If anything, the fact that they 
beat all the PC manufacturers is nice and, also, their high rating 
in the commercial area, means most business people will relate to 
it much better than the ipad.


For one thing, Black berry (at least try to) address the issues that 
businessmen need.

but the name is strange.  its like if they are trying to play both 
sides...   play pad... but its for professionals....   sounds like 
a mixed message.


i'd have called it something related to work... something like the 
  "Slave Pad"  ;-)>