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[!Cheyenne] Discussions about the Cheyenne Web Server

florin
25-Aug-2010
[8841]
Don't you love it when it happens! I was working on the http.cfg 
file located in the cheyenne source rather then the proper one. I 
should've listened ot my wife an go to bed!
Graham
25-Aug-2010
[8842]
so, we've been chatting for 45 mins because you were working on the 
wrong file???
florin
25-Aug-2010
[8843]
45 minutes? I outta go. I messed up your time.
Graham
25-Aug-2010
[8844]
LOL
florin
25-Aug-2010
[8845]
Would you not find this web framework appealing though?
Graham
25-Aug-2010
[8846x3]
not me ...
ie. I'd like to see it working first
it looks more higher maintenance than what I had in mind
florin
25-Aug-2010
[8849x2]
Well... I am going to find out what a good night sleep does.
You say so because in your dialect, the master of the page is yourself. 
What do you do though when you have to interract with web designers?
Graham
25-Aug-2010
[8851]
give them the template I guess
florin
25-Aug-2010
[8852]
The re-usability that you are looking for (i.e. the JS, etc) could 
be met with a simple configuration file and page fragements.
Graham
25-Aug-2010
[8853]
In my idea, the template would be loaded from DB .. so it could be 
altered on a per user basis
florin
25-Aug-2010
[8854]
Besides, CSS would take care of most cases of re-use.
Graham
25-Aug-2010
[8855x2]
Having a single template does not appeal
but .. show me the pudding and I'll eat it :)
florin
25-Aug-2010
[8857]
:) We need to write some code then. See ya. And thanks for the time.
Graham
25-Aug-2010
[8858]
bye
Kaj
25-Aug-2010
[8859x3]
Florin, Gabriele wrote a templating engine based on XML ID attributes 
several years ago. It's called Temple
I agree with your requirement of designer-approachable templates
Most other REBOL engines you'll find are based on the reverse concept 
of wanting to make as much as possible into REBOL syntax
florin
25-Aug-2010
[8862x3]
Kaj, thanks. I will look for it.
Well, half hour google search does not help finding it.
Does anyone have a busy httpd.cfg to share? Trying to learn from 
some practical examples.
Graham
25-Aug-2010
[8865]
I don't think I've ever seen Temple
florin
25-Aug-2010
[8866]
I don't find much use of rebol view. I'm interested in browser based 
stuff, and that's the only way I'd spend time with rebol. I'd love 
to take a look at Temple.
PeterWood
25-Aug-2010
[8867x2]
I believe this is what you are looking for - http://www.rebol.it/giesse/temple.r

I found it by searching the mailing list archives at rebol.org
This recorded AltME discussion seems to serve as documentation - 
http://www.rebol.it/giesse/Temple.pdf
florin
25-Aug-2010
[8869x3]
Wonderful. I'm going to look into it.
I read the conversation. That is what I am looking for. Unfortunatelly, 
it was anandoned. Temple is not using Cheyenee but cgi.
Graham: It appears that this could be some proof in the puding. Andrew 
has few concerns that seemed to be much like yours. Interesting read. 
I wish I came accross this type of framework when I was still doing 
Struts in 2003.
Graham
25-Aug-2010
[8872x3]
temple is pre-cheyenne
It looks like similar ideas are involved .. complete separation of 
layout from code
Interesting item from the past .. both Brett and Andrew have droppped 
out of the Rebol scene ... the latter not by choice though
florin
25-Aug-2010
[8875]
He passed away or rebol became illegal in his country?
Graham
25-Aug-2010
[8876x2]
He lives in NZ .. I'm not aware of any laws against Rebol here
But he did get sick ..
Gabriele
26-Aug-2010
[8878]
Temple is just an engine, so it can run in any context. It was mostly 
an experiment, and the HTML parser was very basic. I have a much 
better parser now, adapting the functions from Temple should not 
be hard. (left as a nice exercise to the reader :-)

http://www.rebol.it/power-mezz/mezz/load-html.html
Graham
26-Aug-2010
[8879x2]
still CGI though?
Hmm... that makes 3 websites you keep your stuff?
Gabriele
26-Aug-2010
[8881x2]
load-html is just a function.
i have some old stuff scattered around. i'm trying to put most of 
the newest stuff in the Power Mezz package which is on Sourceforge 
and www.rebol.it
Graham
26-Aug-2010
[8883]
what's colle...a used for?
Gabriele
26-Aug-2010
[8884]
more "personal" / work in progress stuff. i've decided to put the 
Power Mezz on www.rebol.it instead because that seems to make more 
sense.
Graham
26-Aug-2010
[8885]
so no more Apache directory listings?
Graham
27-Aug-2010
[8886x2]
Doc says he will try and fix the 'alert issue ... though he's not 
sure it will fix the ability to run as a service
He'll be back here in a few days to answer questiona
florin
28-Aug-2010
[8888]
Gabrielle: temple.r is dependent on utilities.r. Could not find it.
Graham
28-Aug-2010
[8889x2]
FYI, Gabrielle is the female form of Gabriele
check out http://www.colellachiara.com/soft/libs/