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Tomc
22-Feb-2005
[1234]
chances it are it is carls department not safeworlds
[unknown: 9]
22-Feb-2005
[1235]
yes.
Tomc
22-Feb-2005
[1236x3]
but it is another reason not to forsake the mail list
or too strongly promote altme on linux... its great! except for the 
core dump every time you use it
imagine what the /.ers would say
[unknown: 9]
22-Feb-2005
[1239]
I was not implying stop the ML, but there are other ways to handle 
this.  My goal is one source of info, I consider both AltME, Email, 
QTask, and many other things as simply mediums to diliver info.
Tomc
22-Feb-2005
[1240]
I am very much with you there
[unknown: 9]
22-Feb-2005
[1241]
I want them all compatible.
Ammon
22-Feb-2005
[1242]
Tomc, I'm afraid that is a LINUX problem not an RT/SafeWorld problem. 
 The problem with Linux is that its so fragmented it no longer knows 
its head from its tail.
[unknown: 9]
22-Feb-2005
[1243]
You pick the way you want to interact.
Tomc
22-Feb-2005
[1244x2]
a single source would help  fragmentation that has already taken 
its toll in this small community
A: Im sure you are correct
Ammon
22-Feb-2005
[1246]
I'm not trying to justify inconsistancies, just trying to point out 
that even applications that only run on Linux experience a great 
degree of inconsistancy between distros...
[unknown: 9]
22-Feb-2005
[1247]
Exactly, I hate to have information not centralized.  It should be 
intersting to see if we can bring all three of these (to start) together 
(meaning AltME, Email, QTask).  They each do something different. 
 but they should be compatible.  And in this context "Email" realliy 
refers to a relay Server.
Tomc
22-Feb-2005
[1248]
to be a lowest common denominator it would have to be web based text
Ammon
22-Feb-2005
[1249]
Rebol/Services ? ;~>
Tomc
22-Feb-2005
[1250]
theorericaly :^)
BrianW
22-Feb-2005
[1251]
odd, I've never yet had a coredump with altme
Tomc
22-Feb-2005
[1252]
100% reproducible here
BrianW
22-Feb-2005
[1253]
just curious: what distro?
Tomc
22-Feb-2005
[1254]
redhat enterprise 3 workstation something or another, all patches 
up to date
Ammon
22-Feb-2005
[1255]
It could be as simple as a Console setting...
BrianW
22-Feb-2005
[1256]
weird. I've been on FC2, FC3, and RH7.2 with no issues. Haven't tried 
RHEL3 yet, though.
Ammon
22-Feb-2005
[1257]
Or the way that you are running AltME...
BrianW
22-Feb-2005
[1258]
.oO(actually, it's a mutant originally based on RH7.2, so I probably 
shouldn't include that in the list)
Ammon
22-Feb-2005
[1259]
I experienced a number odd behaviors with AltME and REBOL in general 
on FC2...
Micha
23-Feb-2005
[1260x3]
console.r [ view layout f1: field 100x100 [ s]
                        f2: field 100x100 ]
s: funs [] [ p: open 127.0.0.1:80
             write-io p f1/text length? f1/text
             wait p
             d: ""
             read-io p f2/text 1000
             f1/text: ""
             show [ f1 f2]
          ]

serw.r [ p: open tcp://:80
         c: first p
         wait p
         d: ""
         read-io c d 1000
         write-io console://  d length? d
         read-io console:// d 10000
         write-io c d length? data ]
plis help
remote consola rebol
Geomol
23-Feb-2005
[1263]
s: funs [] ...
should be
s: func [] ...
Tomc
23-Feb-2005
[1264]
without s taking arguments  could be   

s: does [p: open  ....
Pekr
23-Feb-2005
[1265]
Is it possible for newcomer who installed Altme today to view older 
messages? I have one friend who can't see any messages in View group 
for e.g.
Geomol
23-Feb-2005
[1266]
The groups should be sent to his computer. You can set the message 
limit under settings.
Pekr
23-Feb-2005
[1267]
ah, dot trick worked, thanks ...
Tomc
24-Feb-2005
[1268x2]
R: I would add to our list of mail-list users, all altme users whenever 
safeworlds single point of failure archetecure rears it's head
(such as the last half day)
Pekr
24-Feb-2005
[1270x2]
ah, finally back? What happened?
uf, pressed Bold button mistakenly ....
Tomc
24-Feb-2005
[1272]
when all worlds are unavailable from everywhere it is because safeworlds 
is having network/hardware/software problems  on the machine that 
looks the current address of a world
JaimeVargas
24-Feb-2005
[1273]
Yes the Safeworlds nameserver application was done. The application 
runs on the same server than their website.
Tomc
24-Feb-2005
[1274]
even if the world host address is working just fine in the next room
Pekr
24-Feb-2005
[1275]
no, not apparently, as their website worked here, while Atlme did 
not?
JaimeVargas
24-Feb-2005
[1276]
Because the nameserver app was done. The application runs on port 
5500. Webserver in port 80 both hosted on the same ip-address 66.328.43.215
Tomc
24-Feb-2005
[1277]
website need not be on the same machine seerving world addresses
JaimeVargas
24-Feb-2005
[1278]
nameserver app failed
Pekr
24-Feb-2005
[1279]
I wonder, if Altme a) uses at least TWO machines to connect to for 
lookup purposes like DNS does b) can remember IP address so next 
time look-up server is not available, it can try direct IP connection 
.... if not, it is imo plain stupid as at least b) imo would not 
take more than few hours for programmer to add .... now Peter will 
come once again, and call it - "unreliable" :-)
JaimeVargas
24-Feb-2005
[1280]
From my observations of pkt trace.
a) No it doesn't
b) No caching either
Pekr "unreliable" assestion correct.
Tomc
24-Feb-2005
[1281]
safeworlds did have a good long run with no downtime, but stuff happens 
eventually
Pekr
24-Feb-2005
[1282]
not "pekr unreliable" - it was joke. It was Peter Wood imo, who called 
it unreliable and once Rebol2 failed, someone joked that now Peter 
Wood will come and call it unreliable, so I just wait when he appears 
:-)
Tomc
24-Feb-2005
[1283]
Pekr- it is more a policy / bussiness pratice than praciical programming 
problem