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Pekr 24-Feb-2005 [1293] | Tomc - if there is any business practice, I just don't buy it and SafeWorlds wants to stay in control. Then they should not promote product as private. IIRC, folks are reporting even their private running worlds don't run because of look-up server failure ... |
Tomc 24-Feb-2005 [1294] | but they are private in that the data exchanged after the world-name-server lookup does not go anywhere near the world-name-server... it is just words |
Terry 24-Feb-2005 [1295] | I'd be really embarrased right about now if I had promoted Altme as a corporate communications tool. |
JaimeVargas 24-Feb-2005 [1296] | Well... Partially truth. The name server is consulted all the time. At least from my pkt trace. I am looking more deeply into it. |
Tomc 24-Feb-2005 [1297] | If safeworlds were able to provide the service they are attempting to then we would not care for the most part |
Pekr 24-Feb-2005 [1298] | Well, imagine running some cooperative group of ppl and lose ability to work because of AltME outage. What is even more strange is, that SafeWorlds did not bother to post any kind of message on their website. RT did .... |
Tomc 24-Feb-2005 [1299] | effectivly true... if you have a connection and the world_name-server goes away you do not loose the connection you have. |
Pekr 24-Feb-2005 [1300] | yes, that is probably true ..... |
Tomc 24-Feb-2005 [1301] | definatly |
JaimeVargas 24-Feb-2005 [1302] | The msg are sent encrypted between server and client. But the name server is consulted all the time to know if there are msg waiting or something similar. I ma not quite sure why the name server keeps engaged after initial resolving. |
Pekr 24-Feb-2005 [1303] | It does? Strange .... |
JaimeVargas 24-Feb-2005 [1304] | If you had a pkt tracer check out the traffic going to 66.218.43.215 port 5500 |
Tomc 24-Feb-2005 [1305x2] | coule be keep-alive or statistics gathering |
quality control not needed for operation | |
Pekr 24-Feb-2005 [1307] | yes, I have Ethereal, never checked on AltME yet ... |
JaimeVargas 24-Feb-2005 [1308x3] | ;Interesting every second the client send a request that looks like cmd: live data: [world-name binary64] ;and the server replies with this cmd: lookup data: ok |
In the case above the "client" is my private AltMe world server. So the traffic is being sent from my server to the nameserver every second. I guess is a way to keep the ownership of the free AltMe world names. | |
Enough hacking back to real work... | |
[unknown: 9] 24-Feb-2005 [1311x2] | . |
Tomc wrote "safeworlds did have a good long run with no downtime, but stuff happens eventually" Thank you, and yes we did. The error that happened today was fixed, and an additional check is now being made to prevent that from happening again in the future. One thing I can clearly say is that each problem has been unique, and each time one happens (a severe failure) we stop everything and jump on it, and in addition to correcting the current problem, write code to prevent the same problem from happening in the future. We have been down less than Live Journal, which has millions of people, and hundreds of servers for the same time period. So we rock! | |
BrianW 24-Feb-2005 [1313] | and you're modest too ;-) |
[unknown: 9] 24-Feb-2005 [1314] | Modesty is a disease, and it wastes time, and truncates communication, which are both ethical crimes. |
BrianW 24-Feb-2005 [1315] | heh. |
[unknown: 9] 24-Feb-2005 [1316x2] | Anyone here know anything about Kylix? |
and I mean you have installed and used it. | |
BrianW 24-Feb-2005 [1318] | for more than 30 minutes? No. |
Graham 24-Feb-2005 [1319] | I still think the ip address should be cached in case the name server goes down .. if that was the problem. |
Terry 24-Feb-2005 [1320x2] | It is far more impressive when others discover your good qualities without your help. -- Miss Manners |
“The first test of a truly great man is his humility.” John Ruskin | |
Graham 24-Feb-2005 [1322] | terry .. can you post these into the quotes channel instead ? Or, I can rename this the quote2 channel! |
[unknown: 5] 24-Feb-2005 [1323] | Anyone tried the new MS Antispyware software. Its pretty sweet. |
Graham 24-Feb-2005 [1324] | Yes, see windows group .. I tried it a couple of weeks ago. |
[unknown: 5] 24-Feb-2005 [1325x2] | testing my new color |
Ahh purdy | |
Terry 25-Feb-2005 [1327] | Graham, you may want to change the name of this group to All, but quotes. |
Graham 25-Feb-2005 [1328] | I've generalised the exceptions |
Terry 25-Feb-2005 [1329] | Well, then.. you best be getting over to the Blog Chat group and get on Anton's case.. I see a quote there that's obviously out of order. |
Graham 25-Feb-2005 [1330] | I always wanted to be a traffic cop |
BrianW 25-Feb-2005 [1331] | oy. Talk about a crappy duty. Sorry, Graham ;-) |
Graham 25-Feb-2005 [1332] | if you get a commission for every ticket ... |
BrianW 25-Feb-2005 [1333] | Yeah, that wouldn't be so bad. |
Graham 25-Feb-2005 [1334x2] | I thought that traffic duties were going to be safer than policing. |
The first time I tried policing .. someone broke my leg :( | |
BrianW 25-Feb-2005 [1336] | yow |
Terry 25-Feb-2005 [1337] | If i paid $.02 for every time someone felt the need to criticize my $.02 worth, I'd owe AT LEAST a $1.50 by now. |
Brock 25-Feb-2005 [1338] | Terry, I must admit, you do get 'dumped on' more than most. I feel for you. |
Maarten 25-Feb-2005 [1339x2] | looking for qa new mobile phone and considering the SonyEricsson K700 or S700, does anybody have them? Or other good advice ;-) |
Basically, I need a phone that can act as a simple mobile (read-only) email client | |
BrianW 25-Feb-2005 [1341x2] | mmm ... bacon cheeseburger |
lunch: get burger [bacon cheese] | |
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