World: r3wp

Just FYI, I removed some empty/inactive groups, and will be looking 
for more. Groups with only a few messages, or which haven't had any 
new ones posted for a while may go away.

How about you warn us of which ones you are going to delete .. so 
we can revive them if necessary.  Yahoogroups does that!

YourValues, GoogleGroup, Portal, Vanilla, Disaster Relief, Fav Blogs, 
Recycle Bug, Nederland, and France are on my list.

I'm going to miss DevCon this year...which I really regret...but 
I will be watching, listening and participating here as I can.  I'm 
there in spirit anyway...

Does anyone have a good simple time tracker to suggest.

I'm on Win 98.


I don't need much. Just start stop reset. It would be nice if it 
could count up to a certain number of hours, not reset when it is 
turned off, have a space to log tasks accomplished, and show some 
kind of  report when needed. It also needs to be portable (USB key) 
because I work at different computers.


Maybe something has been written in Rebol, that would be nice, but 
it's not an absolut requirement.

many thanks,

I've seen a couple of those written in REBOL.  I wrote one a while 
back too.

If no others come forward, let me know, and I'll run a search for 
it.

How can i make Rebol crash without the "Shouldn't happen" warning??

quit ?

I want it to quit.. but when it crashes, it pops up a window.. I 
want it to just go away, so my 'monitoring' script can just restart 
it :)

(I need it to free up the port when it crashes)

of if you are on windows xp

go to systems-> advanced options-> error reports (button on the bottom 
right)

(you can press the window key and pause) disable error reports (topmost 
checkbox) mi XP is in spanish so im just guessing but should be there

Hmm, already disabled

realy ?

then you must trow another kind of error maybe remote RPC ones

it pops up a rebol window

would you belive me, i never saw that popup

Something like .. "***CRASH*** Should not happen****

doest rebol have some kind of error handling

i suppose it does.

Does launching with -q or -w stop the alert popup?

don't know, can't recreate the crash

A Rebol bittorrent is really interesting to see, if anybody has one 
I'd like to have a look at it.

Hi Jean .... I have a timer style you could try .....  would just 
need a tweak to add a reset button.

Let me know if you would like to try it and I will email you off=-ine

off+-ine = offline

Hello PhilB,
Yes I would be interested to try it.

I was thinking about Website ratings and how they seem so useless. 
 Anyone really use the RSACI rating system?  I think the solution 
is for the W3 or some other group to get together with the big search 
engines and demand a standardized ratings system via meta tags and 
then enforce them at registration and query levels.  This way if 
for example you went to registry your site at google.com it would 
not index your site unless it had meta tags that were consistent 
with the sites content.  This way if a website is found to improperly 
manipulate their meta tags it could be pulled from the index.

Does anyone know if Thunderbird can hide all the reply junk in incoming 
mail ?  I read a mailing list where >>>>>>> is not uncommon !
thanks

Paul - I agree with you that  the rating should be done by a third 
part but I don't think that the search engines can do it. They can 
offer it as a separate service but I think that it should be a specialized 
activity. I mean a company should do only this, someone that take 
care of the childrens.

just use some collaborative system, like del.icio.us and so on.

rebcode2.zip posted, daunno what it contains, daownloadaing ...

probe system/internal - what a bunch of opcodes :-)

check-rebcode.r :)

why? btw - do rebcode.zip demos work for you with rebcode2.zip View.exe?

Not tried. Because the test are there and the changes are tested? 
;)

decimals there.

decimals? That is goo, no? Also labels, etc.

what does not work is sub-blocks ...

old demos will not work with this. many changes inside. :)

http://www.ag-ip-news.com/getArticle.asp?Art_ID=2162&lang=en

http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/ev50/vote.html

Answer to Kru's link on "ExpertRating" : I don't see any Rebol coding 
exam!! Only general OS/networking exams.

It's first in google if you're looking for "REBOL jobs". I just found 
it funny.

Hi, 


I would like to ask about how to implement best the auto-upgrade 
facility in rebol. Now the question is, how to aproach it best way. 
IIRC, Detective does something like that. Will you help me to answer 
some of my thoughts?


- typically the mechanism can be rather easy - just go and read some 
site, check for filesize, if differs, upgrade. But that might not 
be sufficient ..


- or you can store somewhere .txt (.cfg whatver file), containing 
rebol block or object, and do some more clever stuff. Basically following 
questions come to my mind:

- do just simple version check and upgrade to higher version?

- imagine an app, developing rather fast, producing xy version in 
the beginning = update often - the list can get long to load - but 
- you have to maintain it, as some ppl can be on vacation and still 
running old version - so - split it into separate, per-version file? 
I mean - making reverse aproach - provide updating config file for 
each version available. example - you have version 1.0, there were 
two other releases, 1.1 and 1.2 - you check 1.0 upgrade cfg and it 
tells you, you can go directly to 1.2 version ... or not, and you 
go to 1.1 first, then to 1.2 .... the reason is, that some version 
might require to rebuild data structures etc etc., so it is not always 
only about switching .exe

Or am I complicating it in unnecessary way? any ideas?

read-thru/check with binary checksums. Each version in own folder. 
Updater points to the next folder. which usually  is empty. once 
a version is there, download everything, run a update-data.r. then 
run this versions look-for-update. Continues until no never version 
there. Look for detective/ask Gabriele how to check that its really 
all your code.

really all your code.
 -> "really your code", if you use encap.

thanks ...

I hope you can place .exe itself in such a directory. It is imo necessary, 
that in such a case, update-date.r is being run by new .exe already. 
Imagine you want to rebuild database, and that there is View 1.4, 
which uses RIF, rebcode. You can't do it using old .exe, which uses 
older kernel incarnation ...