World: r3wp

We don't have that many people here who have design skills

Graham wins the "first to say something can't be done" award.

Unless they are paid and can spend more time?

thanks.

What's so pizzaz about the ruby site ?

Are you sure you're not just venting ??

We don't design anything, we find a site that already looks great, 
and use it.  Pay homage, as we like to say.

I see IOS more like a quick meeting-place. Want to do something, 
set up new server. Together with web-publishing. Say we have a few 
licenses for some projects.

I agree we should use off the shelf components.

This not invented here thing gets tiresome.

Ruby's site is actually pretty cool, and my fav part is:  Ruby 1.8.4 
released! [2005-12-24] by maki Ruby 1.8.4 has been released. on the 
first line.  It means it is ALIVE, people are posting, stuff is HAPPENING. 
 

How about you help, by finding sites that are even better, as opposed 
to questioning the few sites I found?

And venting does not come with offers to pay for stuff...it does 
not come with solutions.  Lets move forward and MAKE something.

I don't go to non rebol language sites !

How looks vanilla? I like it, by i am no art-guy.

I tried using vanilla for this purpose ... but I'm not a graphics/design 
guy

and vanilla is so sloooooow

Your server had technical problems. First i was reluctant to spawn 
a process, then i forgot a bit about it.

well, it was actually a rebol problem .. I wasn't the only one to 
report hanging daemons.

I heard there is a combination of uniserv and vanilla, which is much 
faster. I guess vanilla runs on a daemon then. by cgi, it scans tons 
of files each time.

And here's another attempt using mediawiki

http://compkarori.com/rebolwiki/index.php/Main_Page

I know. Sorry for wording.

Wanted topoint out: This is a dedicated box.

I think you're talking about implementation details .. whereas R 
is looking at the overall picture.

I guess we're talking about finding a portal ...

No, wanted to push vanilla a bit. I think you are hit by bad experience.

I'm open to what every one agrees on.  If it works it works, if it 
does not it does not.

well, you can run vanilla .. but someone needs to customise it to 
give it that inviting/live look.

How much load/data etc do you expect?

I hope the original developers are interested. Have seen some different 
looks, if that developers jump in?

Hard to tell.

This is a vanilla site heavily customised by Chris

http://www.ross-gill.com/

I think it needs a news section, a chat section, a download section, 
a place to vote and comment on software.

what about this site http://www.zope.org/

The Web Site for the Zope Community

http://www.compkarori.com/vanillai like the calendar.

(btw in 3 days you can make a 1000days-party :)

hehe

Its possible to run multiple vanillas. Then each project can have 
its own look.

Sharing user-accounts, maybe some way of cross-linking, maybe changing 
the dialects in a more rebol-way.

now, that was a news site ... blog etc... but after a 1000 days, 
not a single news entry except by myself.

so, I'm somewhat pessemistic about a community collaboration on such 
a project.

this is not a problem that can be solved by throwing a server at 
it .. as we already done that.

The best place to look may be the french community?

who knows ...

so, I'm somewhat pessemistic about a community collaboration on such 
a project.


Pessimism implies something can fail…what can fail here?  Centralized 
information does not exist.  Building a site that centralizes information 
instantly accomplished the goal, as long as it can be updated by 
the very creation of information.  If it was nothing but an RSS transponder 
it would already accomplish something.


The trick to all of this is simply opening everything up.  Which 
brings up another great example, you blog, and your blogs have 0 
comments.  I blog (to a more private forum not computer related), 
I get anywhere between 20 and 100 comments.  But it is because I'm 
linked off a centralized feed.


People need to be invited in, given places to go, and know that things 
are happening.

I think of an alternate explanation .. Altme consumes all the chat 
resources available.

look at http://www.reboltalk.com/forums/.. the last post Nov 26.

How about free hosting, like lycos or such? peoples build their homes 
there, add rebol-widgets to pages? To get a community running?

I think of an alternate explanation .. Altme/Rebol3 consumes all 
the chat resources available of the more prominent supporters.


This is my point!  We are all hidden in here.  It is elitist, and 
there isn't even a way for people to come in easily.  Sure we will 
have to deal with Trolls (don't we already?)  but we can see some 
new blood as well.

Volker, in fact that is sort of what I'm saying.   Except I'm not 
suggesting anyone needs to move their stuff to this site, quite the 
opposite.  The site is to centralize all the information about all 
the other sites and places.  It is mostly a giant voting engine.

The news is just the top stories.

The forum is just a place for people to ask questions, in fact the 
mirror of Rebol3 should be there.


The library would still be over on Rebol.org.  but the reviews would 
be on RebolCentral.com.