World: r3wp

round now/time/precise

I'm timing a vid script, and the nano seconds never display, I assume 
because vid refreshes every second.

Henrik, that worked! Thanks! I love AltME and all you helpful guys.

I'm rather badly needing a pagemaker pm5 file converted to ASCII 
format. My copy of Pagemaker has been corrupted, and I just want 
to print a document using LaTeX. The file is about 309 MB. Is there 
anyone here that can do this for me?

May I ask...why do you still "print" stuff?

Because, I'm in a small village in Indonesia. None of the people 
in this village have computers. Most of them are very poor.

On AltME I live in the future, but in this village I live 75 years 
ago or more.

Some of the major cities here are much more advanced, of course.

Ah, I get it.  I really want to make a bunch of jokes about printing 
bibles, but will skip it.

309Mbs !

how many 1000s of pages is that?

:>) Typo. That should have been KBs.  What a difference one letter 
makes.

Programmers notice such things, since one letter often makes the 
difference between a program running of not.

:)

What would be your #2 language after REBOL for developing an entrprise 
apllication/web application?

I'd use Rexx if they let me:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REXX

Possibly Python

python for sure... just cause it will easily symbiose with C/C++ 
 and makes it very easy to work with both hand in hand.

Hmm, would it be possible to get Rebol working with C more easily 
too?

yes, if we could compile rebol directly using rebol.o  and link it 
with any other C  .o module


and if we could interpret. .c / .cpp / .h files directly and convert 
the stubs directly within rebol.

(like python does)

it seems as if  R3 will allow us to link to rebol itself... so this 
might be possible... as you have noticed... too in some of Carl's 
R3 posts.

I am not sure it is possible. Is Python just some kind of direct 
C extension or what?

internally it using the same type structure (immutable strings, etc)

and in loads C stubs easily. so you don't have to try and make it 
work... its python's main feature... its so easy, everyone is able 
to port their legacy C stuff and then use it within a scripted env.

and most C libs are within python as-is, so things like sockets, 
regexp, threads and such use the same mechanics and nomenclature... 
so there is very little adapting a part from the peculiar indent 
grouping.

obviously, python has other merits, but making C integration that 
easy made many developpers "take the risk" of trying it out, since 
it did not means wasting years of investment.

there is nothing like proving an easy, lazy path to migration.

proving= providing

that sounds good. I tried to look into Ruby and Python, and if I 
would learn another new language, I would learn python - the syntax 
is pretty readable ...

Yes, and the language is as capable as rebol, except for symbolic 
manipulation. But with a good parser generator you can do a lot

guys, don't you  know any application, which would be able to generate 
traffic? I want to install two Mikrotik routers in Dual Nstreme mode, 
and I would like to test real-life thoughput. Copying one big file 
amongst two ends is interesting test for line stability, but there 
is a difference if you run one connection, or few hundreds ones ...

IIRC there was some perl tool to test Apache, but it required Apache 
(webserver) on the other end .... I need something like "point-to-point" 
testing tool ...

rebol would notwork for that?

Volker - did not think about that :-)

I would have to implement some kind of tasking ... not sure 1 rebol 
process is able to generat the throughput ...

and - how would I measure real packet size? I am not interested in 
data-only size .... Hmm, but ethernet plus ip plus tcp header have 
some constant overhead I think :-)

with  async?

if  one of  the gurus steps  in to write the  script^^

I have my own, very short but working - multiserver ....

I just should generate 1000 opened connections and try to send random 
data ....

without async there are little hidden waits for handshaking AFAIK.

yes, probably connection times ... hmm, interesting idea, I might 
try it anyway ....

or  a  script  to launch some processes, each using sync io.

I can start multiple Rebol instances with the same script. I think 
that multiplexing to some 100 ports per instance should be ok,  no? 
I can open connections first, then start sending data ....

iperf

http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/

Petr, iperf is the de facto tool for this. We use it in the Detective 
as well

ok, thanks guys, looks good. I am just studying command-line options 
...

I have my rebol multi-server, hopefully it would work, but I would 
need to think of how to do calculations :-)