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Ashley
6-Feb-2008
[2681]
Interesting conversation on SVG ... perhaps it would be better to 
continue in the SVG Renderer group (or just rename it to SVG?) no?
Graham
6-Feb-2008
[2682]
IE needs the Adobe plugin to view SVG.  I believe but have not seen 
it working that FF has/were building their own viewer built in.
Oldes
7-Feb-2008
[2683]
I don't agree, that "Flash is slow junk". It was very well designed 
for creating interactive animations. And it supports things, which 
SVG is missing... as for example possibility to cache vector drawing 
as a bitmap. If something is slow, in most cases it's not Macromedia's 
fault.
Rebolek
7-Feb-2008
[2684]
maybe it's not that slow, but still, Flash is junk
Reichart
7-Feb-2008
[2685]
BrainH, I won't belabour the point, I'm simply still unclear how 
once can make REBOL really much faster by making byte-code from it. 
 But, perhaps someone will, and make a demo, and prove it to me in 
the future… I agree that Zip XML is not a solution, but unless the 
Pcode system for XML is built into the browser, I don't see an advantage 
there either yet.

I'll be the first to use both though, when they exist.

Ashley, yes, will move future SVG convo to group…
Oldes
7-Feb-2008
[2686]
Rebolek: tell me why?
BrianH
8-Feb-2008
[2687]
Reichart, Rebin won't make REBOL run faster internally, but it would 
improve the storage and transmittal of REBOL data, so things like 
/Services would be faster. Internally REBOL is already fast.
Reichart
19-Apr-2008
[2688]
I know most people here are still treating SaaS as a red headed step 
child…but guys, it IS what is happening…  : )

Check this out:

http://code.google.com/apis/chart/#url_format


They got to it before Richard and I could complete ours, and given 
there license (don't worry about it if you use it less than 250K 
times a day!), we are probably just going to support it directly.


How about writing a REBOL interface that lets you test it first, 
then out puts Google compatible REST?


Even without Google Charts, it is a stand alone useful program, but 
WITH Google, it might get noticed by the public.


One should be able to whip this together quickly, and it would be 
a useful simple report component everyone could use.
Graham
19-Apr-2008
[2689x2]
that was released quite a while ago wasn't it?
I didn't think it could do time series ...so I didn't persue it.
Reichart
19-Apr-2008
[2691]
It gets better, all the time...Google has a habit of that...
Graham
19-Apr-2008
[2692]
can't see that they do it yet
Reichart
19-Apr-2008
[2693]
Point me to a graph on the web that looks like what you want.  I'm 
planning to use them, but clearly, there are things they don't do, 
and I plan to do that in REBOL, but use the same trick.
Graham
19-Apr-2008
[2694]
This is what I have at present.  https://www.compkarori.co.nz.. 
login as guest/1234 select results/laborator and click on any of 
the results to bring up a graph at the bottom of the page.
Reichart
19-Apr-2008
[2695]
Cool stuff (wow, what a CAPTCHA! LOL)

So for example,

You want to hand it:

A range - 60 to 100 mmHg for example.
A bunch of data (dates with values)


I would have to study Google.Graphs, but it seems they allow this.
Graham
19-Apr-2008
[2696x6]
that's Nenad's captch library at work.
It's bundled with Cheyenne I think.
Most graphing programs aren't smart enough to deal with dates and 
values ....
most free ones ...
I had to write my own in postscript http://synapse-images.s3.amazonaws.com/73C55E9348E30B2419011E4D87DDCDCE.pdf
ie. I used Rebol to generate the postscript graphs
Reichart
19-Apr-2008
[2702]
Just so I'm clear, what is missing from this: http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=lc&chs=200x100&chd=s:frothsmzndyoteepngenfrothsmzndyoteepngen&chxt=x,y&chxl=0:|Apr|May|June|1:||50+Kb
Graham
19-Apr-2008
[2703x3]
Not sure what I'm seeing.  I get an endless wait.
There's a line graph with 3 months on the x-axis.
what I want to do is feed date data and let the graph program automatically 
generate the x-axis labels.
Reichart
19-Apr-2008
[2706]
Hmmm....I'm not familiar with Google Graph yet enough to confirm.

But...this is another one of those areas we are starting to play 
with.  I really like thier basic method, although, SOAP might be 
nice so one can work in something more like XML
Graham
19-Apr-2008
[2707]
Does google expect you to supply the x-axis labels and spaces them 
evenly ?
Reichart
19-Apr-2008
[2708]
That is what I was just studying...
Graham
19-Apr-2008
[2709]
This is what I am using now http://www.ejschart.com/
Reichart
19-Apr-2008
[2710x2]
Very cool.
I looked at it a long time ago.
Graham
19-Apr-2008
[2712x2]
Is there a problem with google generating images with a https website? 
 You'll get all those annoying messages about mixed content
well, at least with IE.
Reichart
19-Apr-2008
[2714]
Yeah, true, interesting...
Graham
19-Apr-2008
[2715x2]
Which is why I switched to hosting yahoo's libraries rather than 
using their servers
So, using google graphs is not an option for me.
Reichart
19-Apr-2008
[2717]
Interesting...
Maarten
24-Apr-2008
[2718]
I need the files (6 years old, gone even in the waybackmachine.org) 
that I posted here: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-message.r?m=rmlBCNJ


Anybody has the-vault.zip and can mail it to me? That would be really 
appreciated!!!!
Gregg
24-Apr-2008
[2719]
Done.
Maarten
24-Apr-2008
[2720]
Public thanks ;-)
Pekr
25-Apr-2008
[2721x2]
is R3 blog down? Or is it just me?
I get: ** Script Error: Cannot use add on block! value ** Where: 
do-cgi ** Near: blog-count: 1 + any [attempt [load blog-counter] 
0]
Graham
25-Apr-2008
[2723x3]
Isn't that an old bug?
presumably load blog-counter => [ ] and causing the error
probably run out of disk space
Terry
26-Apr-2008
[2726x2]
From the "Stalking Carl" Dept.
http://redwerks.s3.amazonaws.com/080426182318bf7rq.jpg
(ok.. back to stealth mode)
Janeks
30-Apr-2008
[2728x2]
Well, didn't found the group Security, so writing here.

I am thinking of solution, where to user is sent e-mail with attached 
 rebol file, that contains simple form with with some data, that 
user opens add some his data and push the button to send back.

I like this solution because it works just on e-mail, that is very 
common to ordinary people, no needs to make additional installations 
except Rebol and that do not wory about new versions of forms, because 
it always is sent again.
So the qestion that arises is it good from the point of security?
The target systems for this solution would be the Windows.
BTW: How to replace security messages ? I would like to show those 
messages in language of target users?

It seems for me that it could be done by using those startup scrips 
user.r a.o.
Henrik
30-Apr-2008
[2730]
the yes/allow requesters can't be replaced in R2, AFAIK.