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Maxim
7-Jan-2009
[3236]
new resolution for 2009!

make a 3hr drive and pay a beer to Btiffin!   :-D
btiffin
7-Jan-2009
[3237]
I'll take a coffee my good man.   I just passed the 17 year booze 
free mark.   ;)
Maxim
7-Jan-2009
[3238x2]
I guess the alcohol-free is like sleeping with the devil?
but yeah, I'll by you a big Evian bottle by the pool table if you 
want!    :-D
btiffin
7-Jan-2009
[3240]
Sounds cool;  I know just the bar.
Maxim
7-Jan-2009
[3241]
:-)  I'll bring a belgian with me... I can give the beer to him  
;-)
xavier
7-Jan-2009
[3242]
:P
Maxim
7-Jan-2009
[3243]
guess who's the belgian  ;-)
xavier
7-Jan-2009
[3244]
i dont want to be considered as alcoolic, beer is a part of the culture 
of a country .... i love culture
Maxim
7-Jan-2009
[3245]
;-)
xavier
7-Jan-2009
[3246]
i ll be very glad to meet you btifin :)
btiffin
7-Jan-2009
[3247]
Well if you do, it'll be at Ottawa's coolest punk bar.  A real dive 
with an awesome vibe.  And pool tables.  ;)
xavier
7-Jan-2009
[3248]
yeah !
Maxim
7-Jan-2009
[3249x2]
There are bars in Ottawa?  I thought we'd have to cross the river 
and go to Quebec for that   ;-)
Last time I went to Ottawa, we ran around for one hour in a car, 
trying to find a street with more than one bar ... didn't find any! 
 ;-)
btiffin
7-Jan-2009
[3251]
Then you missed the Byward Market.  Tons.  Punk, Sport, Dance, Gay, 
we got 'em.
Maxim
7-Jan-2009
[3252]
guess so!  but in any case I was just joking... you know of people 
from quebec like Ottawa    ;-)
BrianH
7-Jan-2009
[3253]
Sounds like fun :)
btiffin
7-Jan-2009
[3254]
Though since they closed the Horse Shoe I don't think there are any 
"skank ho's be here" bars.  Just walking passed the place, you could 
feel that "vibe" oozing out into the street.  ;)
Maxim
7-Jan-2009
[3255]
hehehe
btiffin
7-Jan-2009
[3256x2]
Feel?  more like smell.   ;)
But yeah, the market definitely is the spot.  They pretty much shutdown 
the nightlife over in Hull, oh 10ish+ years ago.  They had roving 
six packs of cops with shotguns for about a year.  Effectively shut 
it right down.
xavier
7-Jan-2009
[3258x2]
:(
no more nite life in ottawa ?
Maxim
7-Jan-2009
[3260]
no he means no more nite life in Hull
btiffin
7-Jan-2009
[3261]
Then Ottawa had to scramble to change by-laws.  The Hull owners wanted 
to move all the 5,000 seat bars to the Ottawa side.  So there is 
a moratorium until they get it figured out.   ;)
Maxim
7-Jan-2009
[3262]
why did they want to close the partying?  gotten too wild, or was 
it a result of ottawans, crossing the river every night?
btiffin
7-Jan-2009
[3263x2]
Yeah, xavier, back in the day there was 1am close in Ontario, 3am 
in Hull Quebec;  A mass exodus across the brige started at about 
midnight.  It was fun, but it WAS chaos and it WAS a problem.  Now 
Ontario has 2am close, so things settled a bit.
Plus QC has 18 age of majority, Ontarion 19, so that added to the 
fire.  ;)
xavier
7-Jan-2009
[3265]
2 am is just the good hour to start to party :)
Maxim
7-Jan-2009
[3266x2]
its 19 in Ontario!  I didn't know about that!
now you know who who is the belgian  ;-)
btiffin
7-Jan-2009
[3268x2]
I noticed that when I went to visit friends in Sherbrooke.   10 o'clock 
and I'm pacing about, "let's go".  Little did I know.  :)
Oops, we should be in Chat ... didn't notice.
Steeve
7-Jan-2009
[3270]
fortunalty, we don't have such prohibition in France
xavier
7-Jan-2009
[3271x2]
neither in belgium
at least u can party all nite
Steeve
7-Jan-2009
[3273]
we have a little more advanced culture, they are so young those americans
xavier
7-Jan-2009
[3274]
in montreal they are pretty advanced ... :)
btiffin
7-Jan-2009
[3275]
moved to Chat;  we're kinda polluting the All group.
Sunanda
8-Jan-2009
[3276]
Carl asked how many messages here, and guessed 100,000
I see just on 181,000.

Your numbers will vary -- it depends on the private groups you are 
a member of.

Plus we each member-to-member messages. They are not counted in my 
181,000
Gabriele
8-Jan-2009
[3277]
Ok, Brian, now on your above function, try to parse this: "12.3.2.2.2.2[.3.4 
5 6 7] 8 9"
btiffin
8-Jan-2009
[3278]
Gabriele; don't use that loadall, it's broken - badly broken.  Chris 
Ross-Gill posted a link to a much better load-junk, but his version 
does weird things with "$10,000,000.00" and still doesn't handle 
the recursion required by a real REBOL load.  In defense of us both, 
they were quick jobs posted only as examples.   I'm still unclear 
why the addition of foreign! data would break REBOL.  I'm of the 
opinion it would increase REBOL usabilty, by an order of magnitude 
for people not programmers by nature, and open up entirely new fields 
of endeavour, not make it impossible for professionals to write awesome, 
concise code as they do today.   But ... as you can see from that 
hack job of loadall, I'll defer to gurus.
Gabriele
9-Jan-2009
[3279x2]
I'll defer to gurus

 - that's my point, gurus are telling you that this is a very bad 
 idea...
so, either you know something we don't, and then you're the only 
one that can implement this, or we know something you don't :)
Pekr
9-Jan-2009
[3281x2]
Gabriele - and if the latter is true, then Gurus should explain to 
normal mortals, why it is not easily possible and what consequences 
would proposed solution bring :-)
But - BrianH already explained that ...
Gabriele
9-Jan-2009
[3283x2]
again, the reason is that it is impossible to come up with a general 
solution, and that this is a UI issue and NOT a language issue. unless 
you throw in AI, "language" for a computer cannot be the same as 
"language" for a human.
so, either we have AI, and the computer can figure out what a human 
means when reading the text the human wrote (but it'll have to ask 
questions most of the times! like when a human is talking to another 
human), or it can only be a specilized thing (eg. a date field that 
tries to be "smart" - but that's just a big set of rules)
Pekr
9-Jan-2009
[3285]
I think that your answer is too abstract :-) All that guys wanted 
was - any known rebol datatype should be recognised, and the rest 
should be assigned under junk! or similiarly named datatype. What 
is AI about that? :-)