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You would have to defend the patent as well, if you want to keep 
it valid. That may cost way more than the patent itself. I personally 
think that patenting an algorithm is a surefire way of avoiding widespread 
use.

We wanted ti patent our CCD camera ethernet interface, but we were 
adiced to not to do so, because even if there would be some patent 
violation, you have to start court case in the given country, and 
we would have to be really rich, to affort that ...

Would patenting a compression algoritm be a "software patent" ?

yes - patenting algorithms is something that only the USA seems to 
be doing.. it gets a little stupid in the end..

Thanks for the comments.  Regarding protection of patents - this 
is an area where I believe the patent search is important.  If your 
lawyers have done a good patent search then I think the only defense 
your doing is for those that are infringing on your patent.  In which 
case I think you stand to make MORE $$$ if that is the case.

Paul, forget patents. Not worth. I hold 13, costs a lot, takes endless 
time and if a big player is infringing it you won't have enough $$$ 
to get your rights.

Well let's discuss that Robert.  How can it not be worth it if I 
hold the patent?  I would get the $$$ if I win the case against anyone 
infringing which will be the case so I don't get your conclusions 
here.

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paul, what robert mean is that a patent is worthless until you have 

enough power to defend it. Unfortunatly I have the same experience,

to expensive and if a real big player like to take it, they will 
get 

it even if it takes years, your money and nerves. there are enough

simple and dirty tricks to dry you out. only speed helps here in 
my
opinion.

I guess I don't get how they can TAKE it?

Simple: They just use it and don't pay you. It's your turn to claim 
your rights. It's your effort, money etc. you have to spend They 
just continue to use your idea.

A great example is the RIM patent infringement - they got away with 
it until theyw ere big enough and then simply paid.

The idea of having a patent seems great, and can be very exciting. 
I'm co-inventor on one--just granted--and the company got together 
to discuss whether it was worth it to go international, add a continuation, 
etc. It's a long process, and has taken many years and a lot of money 
to get to this point. 


As we talked, we looked at who might pay for it. To make it worthwhile, 
we would need to go after big companies who would fight tooth and 
nail, and cost everybody more money and time. The best hope is to 
get *one* big company to acquire it for a reasonable sum, and let 
them add it to their arsenal for bartering and battle with other 
big companies. Other than that, it may keep our small competitors 
at bay in that area.


For us, it's clear that we would rather be doing real work than fighting 
legal battles. 


So, the product will now have a patent # associated with it, rather 
than "patent pending", and maybe we'll make something on it, but 
nobdoy is planning to get rich on licensing it.

I`ve read that many companies get patents, as patent infringement 
protection... if you sue them they'll couter claim whatever you infringe 
on their patents.

cause let's face it, basically every single piece of software on 
the planet infringes at least one patent in the US or Canada.

Yeah, I'm thinking you guys are right which is why if I get my stuff 
to a point of production that I'm not going to go with a patent and 
sell it to Microsoft.

Graham the retaliation has begun, I will go further if you want to 
continue to be an asshole.

Uh...............what did Graham do?

He decided to delete my groups.

But don't care anymore.  Delete my account please.

Hmmm....

Hmmmm.  Ok,  let me go confirm a couple of things, and then I will 
honour your request, figure 24 hours...

k

I am not sure why Graham should delete anything? Maybe he just removed 
someone mistakenly from some group?

We should not be opted in to someone's belief systems.

That's spamming us.

Nope he purposely did it.  He is not supposed to be doing such things. 
  He didn't even have to come into the group so his spamming argument 
is a pathetic attempt for sympathy.

What are you accusing me of??

Exactly what you did Graham.  You deleted groups.  Your not a master.

Hmm.  What proof is there that I did this??

Now your denying it?

And what groups am I supposed to have deleted ??

Who knows how many Graham.  You deleted !Compression which was a 
private group that people could have opted out of.  Your the first 
person I know that just went around deleting groups because it didn't 
FIT your perspective of how this world should operate.

Hang on ... you're accusing me of deleting "groups" and you can't 
name them now??

I have no interest in communicating here where people can just delete 
all the data because they disapprove of me or what I said or because 
they didn't like how the group was created.

I just named it.  !COMPRESSION.  Don't deny it Graham.  You came 
in here saying "We should not be opted in to someone's belief systems". 
 Now your changing your tune.

This is what you said "He deleted my groups" ... so name them all.

Graham, you abused your privledges in the community.

I don't know which other ones Graham but I know for SURE you deleted 
!Compression.

That is enough to be abusing your privledges here.

Are you going to deny that you deleted !Compression?

I think you need to retract the accusation you made.

I have no need to Graham. I spoke the TRUTH and your a LIAR!

You deleted !COMPRESSION asshole.

Well, that's so christian of you paul ... just like your namesake 
i guess

Yes it is.  We call Pharisee's vipers also - have a problem with 
that?

http://bible-truths.com/fools.htm

I think everyone should be alarmed at your behavior Graham.  I only 
expect Gregg or Reichart to be deleting my groups.

I know they won't do anything about it and have requested to have 
my account removed here.

Graham, if you don't like me being a Christian then that doesn't 
give you a right to delete my group especially when it had nothing 
to do with Christianity at all.

But I'm going to take this persecution to the bank with me and leave 
the REBOL3 world.  I want to see if my account gets deleted first 
which I would appreciate.