World: r3wp

Naperville came first, then Chicago. Many of the suburbs started 
out as villiages or farming communities - the rest are filler. The 
grid is no more than 150 years old at most.

Ok, I've found Naperville at Google maps, and you live north in what 
area?

I've found Bartlett too, a little north of Naperville.

Geomol, I think it's because of our road system that GPS is so popular.

Copenhagen Denmark?

yes

Looks like an interesting place..  And I can definitely believe that 
about GPS from the maps

:-)

I've only been there once. It was enjoyable, but I prefer my homeland 
a little west from there. :-)

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/5297916


Close to what I would see if I looked out the window. Taken in the 
winter, so it doesn't look as good as in the summer.

Geomol, I live in Chicago, on the north edge near the lake. My parents 
live in Naperville (moved there when they retired.

H: I visited your part of Denmark once about as far back my memory 
goes, not exactly sure how close to where you are, but I have some 
vivid images of some beautiful places...

Birmingham (Alabama) is even by US standards, a new city.  Designed 
around the placement of a railroad junction where in the hills there 
was a confluence of iron ore, coal and limestone.  It's a grid system 
as much as the hills flanking it permit.  The hills - long ridges 
at the tippy-tail of the Appalachians - form a stark barrier between 
the town and the spidery suburbs.

It's definitely not cycle friendly (though I do every day) - the 
few cycle lanes that exist are like sick jokes with sudden dead ends 
and lines that  traffic generally treat as optional, or parking lanes.

And of course, half the traffic are huge trucks or SUVs.  And noone 
thinks twice about opening a car door on you as you pass a parked 
car...


I expect every city you have to be agressive to cycle consistently. 
 I do envy those that live in cities that encourage cycling - evident 
in the Copenhagen pics above...

One of the new initiatives to "fight" the depression here is to build 
a cycle way from the top of the country to the bottom.  I expect 
though you'll still have to catch the ferry to get across Cook Strait.

funny, the town next to mine (8 miles away is called napierville 
  :-)

montreal claims to have the most bicycle paths in any north american 
city.  we even are closing streets and completely removing parking 
downtown for bicycle lanes.


note montreal is a 365 day/year bicycle city... that include when 
there are blizzards, litterally  :-)  they have winter tires with 
studs for sale during the winter  :-)  people are just nuts.

IIRC they are something like 500km of bicycle paths, but I could 
be really off.

montreal and quebec city really are nice cities, in that they share 
many typical north american traits and other more european qualities 
(especially quebec city)

and quebec, the province (state), still has one of the lowest cost 
of life in the developped countries.   taxes are balanced, between 
socialism oriented services and capitalism oriented "let people spend 
money into the economy to let it go round and round.

and we really have quite a selection of pretty women ;-) ... people 
from the states coming in for training sessions, always marvel at 
how women here are at ease, varied in style, and usually pretty charming.

so its more than 350 km of cycling paths, finally... checked it up 
 :-)

and some paths actually go for like 80km from top to bottom... 


in the state, we even have regional paths crossing entire regions... 
everywhere... you can litterally pedal several hundred kilometers 
in a pretty straight line many directions  :-)

and where I use my race-bike is on the Formula 1 race track...   
on circuit Gilles-Villeneuve which is reserved for walking, cycling, 
and skating.   its one of the few places on the island where you 
are allowed to go well over 40km/h on your bike without getting speeding 
fines  :-)

iirc, Montreal is somewhat hilly - is there some accomodation for 
this in the design of the paths?

yep... get a mountain bike   ;-)

(been there - GV on race day : )

and grow legs :-D

too bad there's no F1 this year... (in montreal) we won't be able 
to walk on ferrari street for a whole week... imagine, its been said 
by pilots, that montreal was the favorite spot for partying on the 
F1 championship after monaco.

I can believe it...

(and I have an abundance of legs...)

hehehe

visiting montreal in the summer is really cool, there are festivals 
back to back for 3 months, sometimes there are 2-3 major events overlapping 
in the schedule.

its probably the most culturally-oriented city in all of canada.

2 of my 3 children born in Montreal but both declined to go to U. 
there ... I don't get back often ... I always found spring too short: 
a long winter and suddenly its summer and hot and muggy (not like 
St Louis or Memphis, but still ...)  Fall was usually great - and 
biking and skiing in the Laurentides - I started out in Levis, but 
only spent one summer at U. Laval ... in German - and one summer 
in college up in Lac St Jean (no English spoken up there ! )

yep if you stray to far from montreal... english weeds out pretty 
quick.. a part from the eastern townships... which basically follow 
the US border.

and yes... seasons are a constant race  ;-)

Bicycle paths... you should see it in Amsterdam or any Dutch city.

the country is flat ...

Unflat countries can make some effort too (see map -- it's a 35.meg 
PDF linked to from thism page):
http://www.sustrans.co.uk/what-we-do/national-cycle-network

Though, as this collection of photos show, not all of it is world 
class:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/wcc/facility-of-the-month/site-map.htm

Designed by someone with a dark sense of humour?

BTW: I', living in the city where the Bycicle was invented.


Overall, it seems that mobility is an important topic here. Karl 
Benz was born in Karlsruhe as well. And the world's first "car" drive 
was just around the corner...

What's the easiest way to setup streaming audio on the net?

videolan ?

videolan server?

What was used for the devcons?

And what is Pekr going to use for the next Devcon?? :)

[I'm sure I posted this a few days ago....Perhaps the resync bug 
ate it]

On the R3 Alpha page, Carl name checks a couple of Windows sandboxes: 
Sandboxie and DropMyRights. Anyone have experience of using these?
http://www.rebol.net/wiki/R3_Alpha