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Marco
11-Jan-2012
[3971]
I totally agree with Endo. If anyone has scripts useful to many people 
(like me ;) ) is invited to publish them on rebol.org. "Sharing is 
caring".
GrahamC
11-Jan-2012
[3972]
the other argument is that one should not put all one's eggs into 
one basket.  Rebol.org is owned by RT ....
Endo
12-Jan-2012
[3973]
GrahamC, still "the one" should (or may) put a link to the original 
script, this gives more chance to people to find it. Not all Rebolers 
use AltMe, it is difficult for beginners.
GrahamC
12-Jan-2012
[3974]
There are a ot of things that should be done but aren't.  All the 
librarians can do is track the various sites and attempt to mirror 
the scripts.  We have lost whole sites in the past ...
MikeL
12-Jan-2012
[3975]
Wouldn't gitHubbing the script library solve these concerns?
Dockimbel
12-Jan-2012
[3976]
Would certainly be easier for contributing, versions tracking, documentation 
using the wiki, ...
Ladislav
18-Jan-2012
[3977]
Please, be so kind and respect the group purposes. For example, I 
would welcome you not discussing general topics in the "Carl Only" 
group, "Saphirion" group, etc.
Ladislav
19-Jan-2012
[3978]
Still more curious which one of "Carl" and "only" is not understandable.
GrahamC
19-Jan-2012
[3979]
the discussion is for Carl to read ..if it's Carl only then only 
Carls can post, right?
Sunanda
19-Jan-2012
[3980]
Only Carl posting......That is my understanding, Graham....That is 
more-or-less what Carl asked for in the group back in feb-2005.

It's had short bursts of non-Carl posts several times since then. 
I guess some of us get too excited to search for a topic-specific 
group before posting :)
Pekr
19-Jan-2012
[3981]
I think it is Ladislav, who understands the meaning of the group 
differently. I definitely translate is - post messages you want Carl 
to read. So - in recent situation, when Carl reappeared and is hopefully 
considering next steps, talk about the arguments for open-sourcing 
R3 is pretty much valid in mybook ...
Ladislav
19-Jan-2012
[3982]
You should read:

- the name of the group

- Carl's original posting (I bet that you did pretending now you 
did not)
- Sunanda's explanation
- etc.


Or you can accuse me of whatever you want, since it is what you *wish*
Janko
19-Jan-2012
[3983]
I didn't notice or think enough, I won't post any more
Pekr
19-Jan-2012
[3984]
- name of the group does not explain anything at all imo

- I can see no Carl's original posting, my first message is from 
4/Jan/2004, from Shadwolf. Then Anton, "none", Reviewer and me guessing, 
if it is "from" Carl, or "to" Carl, which in itself clearly shows, 
than more than one person had problem understanding original purpose 
of the group
- Sunanda's explanation is just that -  his opinion
- there is no etc. :-)

-  I am not accusing anyone from anything :-) I know it helps from 
time to time, to keep groups being on-topic, and I can understand 
that in the case of Saphirion, but as for me, recent  Carl only's 
post are far less off topic than some prior discussions in that group.


For god's or anyone sake, it will be best for me to create pekr-only 
group, giving anyone any persmission to post anything :-)
Ladislav
20-Jan-2012
[3985]
name of the group does not explain anything at all imo

 - it does for anybody being able to read. Your "post messages you 
 want Carl to read" is just twisting the meaning. There is no excuse 
 for you doing so ("I can see no Carl's original posting") since you 
 cannot deny you read the original posting. That would be just another 
 twist of reality (a lie) and you should know it as well as I do. 
 As far as the rest of your twisting logic is presented, I react with 
 "no comment".
Pekr
20-Jan-2012
[3986]
Ladislav - I start to think, that sometimes you have really problem 
with perceiving reality, as marking my non rememberance of Carl's 
original post as a lie, is a bit exagerrated imo.


Look - I don't care about any academic claims like "since you cannot 
deny you rea the original posting". The reality is, the group went 
so off-topic even when Carl was presented, that for me it really 
does not matter, how accurate your explanation of original group 
meaning is.


If I, or anyone else think, that it is good to post there any messages 
for Carl to read, then we will do so, easy as that. I think that 
life is more dynamic, than pedantly adhering to rules, especially 
in case there is a proof those rules were far more not adhered to 
in the past. I always do things as I feel them being right, not how 
any "written law" suggests, so If I feel that I want to send a message 
to Carl that way, I will do so.

Now I depart from all this nonsense ...
Ladislav
20-Jan-2012
[3987]
If I, or anyone else think, that it is good to post there any messages 
for Carl to read, then we will do so, easy as that.

 - yes, that is exactly what I pointed at. It is the "I *wish*" philosophy, 
 which can, in fact, be used to justify everything
Pekr
20-Jan-2012
[3988]
Interesting, that even 7 years ago, 5-Jan-2005, the purpose of the 
group was not clear enough to some other ppl. Two messages later 
Carl logged in, not commenting on the purpose of the group itself. 
And to be fair - back at that time I though it is actually from Carl, 
but I don't think so anymore. It's not about the pov change, even 
back then it was all speculation on my, and others side ... 


ReViewer: Just wondering, "Carl Only Messages" means this group is 
read only except for Carl?

Anton: Yes, it's a bit ambiguous, isn' t it ? I think the group creator 
should clarify in the group description whether these are messages 
TO or FROM Carl. (If TO, I think that's a bit hopeful... ;)

pekr: I think it is FROM Carl, as To Carl only you can contact him 
privately ...

none: Actually those would be better name "To Carl" From Carl", Or 
better "Carl Talks" "Carl Listens"


Not that it matters much anyway imo, we simply will stay away from 
that group, to make such a discussion a closed case ...
Gregg
20-Jan-2012
[3989]
The goal of having groups at all, and giving them a purpose and some 
loose guidelines for posting, is to make it easier to find the information 
you (we) want.
GiuseppeC
21-Jan-2012
[3990]
Ladislav, it's not the "Whish" philosophy, it is the FRUSTRATION 
and DESPERATION philosophy. We are really upset and inpotent about 
the situation.  We feel abandoned. We have devodet part our life 
to this programming language and you more than us. You should understand 
some misbehaving we have falled into. 

However I apologize for my intrusion in "Carl Only" even if without 
us it is an abandoned place.
GrahamC
22-Jan-2012
[3991]
Happy New Lunar Year!
TomBon
22-Jan-2012
[3992]
gongxifacái
WuJian
22-Jan-2012
[3993]
haha, gong xi fa cai
Evgeniy Philippov
23-Jan-2012
[3994x2]
xposting here ---
hehe. the greatest &RQ logo with a pointing hand really always greatly 
raises my motivation to develop something :) http://rejetto.com/&RQ/

the motivation is crucial


managers seek hard to rise the motivation. And it's simple: good 
art can do it :)
Ladislav
13-Feb-2012
[3996]
Steeve: "a braced-string {...} mays contain breaced-strings" - can 
you give an example?
Steeve
13-Feb-2012
[3997]
yeah, {{}} is a valid braced-string
Maxim
13-Feb-2012
[3998x2]
>> a: {{}}
== "{}
with the added condition that they must be exactly paired.
Steeve
13-Feb-2012
[4000]
yep
Ladislav
13-Feb-2012
[4001]
ok, that needs a correction
Steeve
13-Feb-2012
[4002x4]
I knew most of rebolers didn't know that rule :-)
It's why I checked that first ;-)
Also, did you  forget binary! ?
#{} 2#{} 64#{] ?
Ladislav
13-Feb-2012
[4006x2]
BRACED-STRING - correction committed
I just did not write many datatypes yet
Steeve
13-Feb-2012
[4008x2]
Ok I see now, some values are still missing
Ok :)
Ladislav
13-Feb-2012
[4010]
binary-syntax added
Steeve
13-Feb-2012
[4011x3]
IIRC, whitespace is allowed in 16-binaries
lf as well
16#{} prefix also allowed
Maxim
13-Feb-2012
[4014]
yep!

>>16#{F F F
    F}
== #{FFFF}
Steeve
13-Feb-2012
[4015]
seems it"s true for 2#{} also, didn't check for 64#
Ladislav
13-Feb-2012
[4016x2]
OK, thanks, whitespace in binaries committed
(I am not sure I defined WHITESPACE correctly, though)
Steeve
13-Feb-2012
[4018x3]
seems legit to me
seems legit to me
just missing :
binary-16: [opt "16" "#{" ....