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Sunanda 19-Jan-2012 [3980] | Only Carl posting......That is my understanding, Graham....That is more-or-less what Carl asked for in the group back in feb-2005. It's had short bursts of non-Carl posts several times since then. I guess some of us get too excited to search for a topic-specific group before posting :) |
Pekr 19-Jan-2012 [3981] | I think it is Ladislav, who understands the meaning of the group differently. I definitely translate is - post messages you want Carl to read. So - in recent situation, when Carl reappeared and is hopefully considering next steps, talk about the arguments for open-sourcing R3 is pretty much valid in mybook ... |
Ladislav 19-Jan-2012 [3982] | You should read: - the name of the group - Carl's original posting (I bet that you did pretending now you did not) - Sunanda's explanation - etc. Or you can accuse me of whatever you want, since it is what you *wish* |
Janko 19-Jan-2012 [3983] | I didn't notice or think enough, I won't post any more |
Pekr 19-Jan-2012 [3984] | - name of the group does not explain anything at all imo - I can see no Carl's original posting, my first message is from 4/Jan/2004, from Shadwolf. Then Anton, "none", Reviewer and me guessing, if it is "from" Carl, or "to" Carl, which in itself clearly shows, than more than one person had problem understanding original purpose of the group - Sunanda's explanation is just that - his opinion - there is no etc. :-) - I am not accusing anyone from anything :-) I know it helps from time to time, to keep groups being on-topic, and I can understand that in the case of Saphirion, but as for me, recent Carl only's post are far less off topic than some prior discussions in that group. For god's or anyone sake, it will be best for me to create pekr-only group, giving anyone any persmission to post anything :-) |
Ladislav 20-Jan-2012 [3985] | name of the group does not explain anything at all imo - it does for anybody being able to read. Your "post messages you want Carl to read" is just twisting the meaning. There is no excuse for you doing so ("I can see no Carl's original posting") since you cannot deny you read the original posting. That would be just another twist of reality (a lie) and you should know it as well as I do. As far as the rest of your twisting logic is presented, I react with "no comment". |
Pekr 20-Jan-2012 [3986] | Ladislav - I start to think, that sometimes you have really problem with perceiving reality, as marking my non rememberance of Carl's original post as a lie, is a bit exagerrated imo. Look - I don't care about any academic claims like "since you cannot deny you rea the original posting". The reality is, the group went so off-topic even when Carl was presented, that for me it really does not matter, how accurate your explanation of original group meaning is. If I, or anyone else think, that it is good to post there any messages for Carl to read, then we will do so, easy as that. I think that life is more dynamic, than pedantly adhering to rules, especially in case there is a proof those rules were far more not adhered to in the past. I always do things as I feel them being right, not how any "written law" suggests, so If I feel that I want to send a message to Carl that way, I will do so. Now I depart from all this nonsense ... |
Ladislav 20-Jan-2012 [3987] | If I, or anyone else think, that it is good to post there any messages for Carl to read, then we will do so, easy as that. - yes, that is exactly what I pointed at. It is the "I *wish*" philosophy, which can, in fact, be used to justify everything |
Pekr 20-Jan-2012 [3988] | Interesting, that even 7 years ago, 5-Jan-2005, the purpose of the group was not clear enough to some other ppl. Two messages later Carl logged in, not commenting on the purpose of the group itself. And to be fair - back at that time I though it is actually from Carl, but I don't think so anymore. It's not about the pov change, even back then it was all speculation on my, and others side ... ReViewer: Just wondering, "Carl Only Messages" means this group is read only except for Carl? Anton: Yes, it's a bit ambiguous, isn' t it ? I think the group creator should clarify in the group description whether these are messages TO or FROM Carl. (If TO, I think that's a bit hopeful... ;) pekr: I think it is FROM Carl, as To Carl only you can contact him privately ... none: Actually those would be better name "To Carl" From Carl", Or better "Carl Talks" "Carl Listens" Not that it matters much anyway imo, we simply will stay away from that group, to make such a discussion a closed case ... |
Gregg 20-Jan-2012 [3989] | The goal of having groups at all, and giving them a purpose and some loose guidelines for posting, is to make it easier to find the information you (we) want. |
GiuseppeC 21-Jan-2012 [3990] | Ladislav, it's not the "Whish" philosophy, it is the FRUSTRATION and DESPERATION philosophy. We are really upset and inpotent about the situation. We feel abandoned. We have devodet part our life to this programming language and you more than us. You should understand some misbehaving we have falled into. However I apologize for my intrusion in "Carl Only" even if without us it is an abandoned place. |
GrahamC 22-Jan-2012 [3991] | Happy New Lunar Year! |
TomBon 22-Jan-2012 [3992] | gongxifacái |
WuJian 22-Jan-2012 [3993] | haha, gong xi fa cai |
Evgeniy Philippov 23-Jan-2012 [3994x2] | xposting here --- |
hehe. the greatest &RQ logo with a pointing hand really always greatly raises my motivation to develop something :) http://rejetto.com/&RQ/ the motivation is crucial managers seek hard to rise the motivation. And it's simple: good art can do it :) | |
Ladislav 13-Feb-2012 [3996] | Steeve: "a braced-string {...} mays contain breaced-strings" - can you give an example? |
Steeve 13-Feb-2012 [3997] | yeah, {{}} is a valid braced-string |
Maxim 13-Feb-2012 [3998x2] | >> a: {{}} == "{} |
with the added condition that they must be exactly paired. | |
Steeve 13-Feb-2012 [4000] | yep |
Ladislav 13-Feb-2012 [4001] | ok, that needs a correction |
Steeve 13-Feb-2012 [4002x4] | I knew most of rebolers didn't know that rule :-) |
It's why I checked that first ;-) | |
Also, did you forget binary! ? | |
#{} 2#{} 64#{] ? | |
Ladislav 13-Feb-2012 [4006x2] | BRACED-STRING - correction committed |
I just did not write many datatypes yet | |
Steeve 13-Feb-2012 [4008x2] | Ok I see now, some values are still missing |
Ok :) | |
Ladislav 13-Feb-2012 [4010] | binary-syntax added |
Steeve 13-Feb-2012 [4011x3] | IIRC, whitespace is allowed in 16-binaries |
lf as well | |
16#{} prefix also allowed | |
Maxim 13-Feb-2012 [4014] | yep! >>16#{F F F F} == #{FFFF} |
Steeve 13-Feb-2012 [4015] | seems it"s true for 2#{} also, didn't check for 64# |
Ladislav 13-Feb-2012 [4016x2] | OK, thanks, whitespace in binaries committed |
(I am not sure I defined WHITESPACE correctly, though) | |
Steeve 13-Feb-2012 [4018x4] | seems legit to me |
seems legit to me | |
just missing : binary-16: [opt "16" "#{" .... | |
the binary! datatype is a hard one ;-) | |
Ladislav 13-Feb-2012 [4022] | committed |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4023] | Does anyone know how to change the world password? |
Maxim 7-Mar-2012 [4024] | did you forget the rebol4 master passwed? |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4025x2] | no, I used a personal one for the world (not master), that I don't wish to share. |
but... something strange is happening. I can't login and neither can Gregg. | |
Maxim 7-Mar-2012 [4027] | I can't log in on rebol4 either |
Henrik 7-Mar-2012 [4028] | The world is running, but noone is allowed to log in. |
Maxim 7-Mar-2012 [4029] | could it be that you can't change the IP of the world server so quickly? |
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