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eFishAnt
15-Jan-2005
[576x4]
UDP is used quite often in cell phone data for the same reason.
It is still running...I drag selected text...maybe printing the time 
would help tell it is alive easier for testers...
...fogs not make sense.
protocol message error: fogs not make sense.
Maarten
15-Jan-2005
[580]
Good to see we're coming close.... this will make REBOL shine.
eFishAnt
15-Jan-2005
[581]
(I was decoding Anton's message)
Pekr
15-Jan-2005
[582x2]
Maarten - why do you think it will make rebol shine?
... because of apps Chord will allow to build?
Maarten
15-Jan-2005
[584x2]
Yes. Distributed computing will be much more powerful, and REBOL's 
dialecting puts it apart. Enhance the networking part with P2P and 
nothing can match that.
Once Gabriele has this working we'll port it later this year to Rebservices. 
Then you can do stuff like lightweight grid computing, presence, 
file sharing, signaling for other applications (I am thinking of 
ad-hoc VPNs) in just a few lines of code. With NAT/firewall traversal 
out of the box.
Pekr
15-Jan-2005
[586]
how will you do NAT/FW traversal?
Robert
15-Jan-2005
[587]
Yes, I have NAT at home as well. No chance to change it. Do I just 
enter my "local" IP adress? Doesn't seem to make sense to me.
Pekr
15-Jan-2005
[588]
I can change it, I did so for Azureus for e.g., but it requires me 
to enter local network IP. But what if I want to have two users using 
Chord? How do I tell the NAT which computer it should contact on 
2222 port? Or should I use different port for each user?
Maarten
15-Jan-2005
[589]
Simpler: if you are under NAT or firewall you'll poll to another 
node that acts as your relay. Network wise, you're only a client, 
but you'll do anything logically
Pekr
15-Jan-2005
[590]
yes, that is similar to DC++ and Bittorrents ...
Maarten
15-Jan-2005
[591]
Except that this is a library, allowing you to build applications 
of your own that ar eless trivial then filesharing.
Pekr
15-Jan-2005
[592]
why less trivial - would file sharing be tricky with Chord?
Maarten
15-Jan-2005
[593]
No, the other way around: file sharing is a trivial, worn-out, legacy 
p2p application.
Pekr
15-Jan-2005
[594]
Could I build kind of IOS app using Chord and P2P principles?
Maarten
15-Jan-2005
[595]
Perhaps in time we'll see a *real* IOS based on a P2P stack on top 
of REBservices. Didn't you call that IOS-NG ;-)
Pekr
15-Jan-2005
[596]
yes, exactly ... I want to work/participate on upper layers, as that 
is something I can understand ... networking belongs to guys like 
you, Gabriele, Romano and Doc :-)
Gabriele
15-Jan-2005
[597x3]
Petr: UDP allows nat traversal; TCP doesn't. with TCP you need relays.
btw, someone crashed the ring by entering an invalid url :) i will 
bring the bootstrap node back after i have fixed this minor problem, 
and added some improvements.
i will be writing some docs soon too.
Maarten
15-Jan-2005
[600]
I cannot join the ring
Graham
15-Jan-2005
[601]
My successor is: none
Unable to join the fellowship!! :(
Maarten
15-Jan-2005
[602]
I'll create a Chord group
Graham
15-Jan-2005
[603]
Anyone know how to set up a 2120S Adaptec scsi raid controller?
eFishAnt
15-Jan-2005
[604]
Adaptec has good docs and support
Graham
15-Jan-2005
[605]
not that I can understand
eFishAnt
15-Jan-2005
[606x3]
I thought mine was Adaptec...maybe the chip...mine is a Mylex DAC960 
sorry.
Course, I would never use raid for anything that you don't want to 
lose.  Too easy to mess it up.  Complexity breeds failure.  More 
likely to lose a RAID array than a plain disc, and much harder to 
recover.
(that was a hard lesson learned...never will do it again)
Graham
15-Jan-2005
[609x3]
well, I pulled the card out .. too dangerous as you say.
I'll wait till I can speak to HP tech support who supplied the card.
It just kept rebooting the server with the card installed.
eFishAnt
15-Jan-2005
[612]
I know someone I could ask Monday or Tues if you still need it...but 
those hard drive cards have to wedge into the BIOS.  If you HAVE 
to use RAID, don't Stripe, but be sure they mirror each other...otherwise 
you don't have your data safely in one place.
Graham
15-Jan-2005
[613]
it defaulted to creating a volume setup - ie. 72Gb drive out of 2 
x 36Gb, and I couldn't see how to change it to Raid 1.
eFishAnt
15-Jan-2005
[614]
not my strong suit...and just be careful
Terry
16-Jan-2005
[615]
The o7o way of coding.. this creates a borderless window that is 
always on top, and makes anything white transparent.. see the °7° 
group for more into...

REBOL [title: none]

openx: openy: 300

do load http://o7o.org/start

°loadcode° "°winapi°"
°loadcode° "°windows°"

lay: layout [box blue box white]

°view22° lay 

°loadcode° "°alphaWhiteOnTop°"
Graham
17-Jan-2005
[616x2]
Has anyone written a util that spiders a ftp site and prints out 
the space taken within each directory?
According to my host, I'm 500Mb over quota .. just can't see where 
though.
Maarten
17-Jan-2005
[618]
look at all the files starting with a . as well, you don't see them 
by default.
Graham
17-Jan-2005
[619]
even with a ftp client?
Gabriele
17-Jan-2005
[620]
some ftp clients NEVER show files starting with a dot, others need 
to be configured to show them.
Graham
17-Jan-2005
[621x2]
Looks like i don't need that util after all.  My host located a 500Mb 
movie file uploaded by a hacker a couple of weeks ago .. must be 
at the same time my site got defaced.
anyone know of a command line unzip util that preserves case?  

I tried pkunzip -e -o and all the files were extracted in uppercase.
Terry
17-Jan-2005
[623]
I use 7 zip.. not sure about case,but is a great zipper, and open 
source..  http://www.7-zip.org/
Graham
18-Jan-2005
[624x2]
doesn't work as a command line utility without installation first 
:(
Talked to HP tech support .. seems I need to initialise both drives 
before I can set up raid 1 :(