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and then later on if you need to copy the 1million files from the 
filing system, or copy the mysql database .. which is faster?

another good point.. think ill load up a directory with a few 100,000 
files and see what happens ;)

If you dont' here from me, you'll know that I mashed my drive :)

hear, that is

well, copying the messages from ios took absolutely ages ...

10,000 iterations .. folder has 100,000 27byte files  - 0:00:00.765 
seconds

Took awhile to create 100,000 27 byte files.. long after the rebol 
script had finished, the os was still handling the cache...
Size: 2.57mb
Size on Disk: 390 mb

but we needed 28 byte files to test this out!

I think the results speak volumes.

and how much space does the db require to store the same data?

don't know

Does anyone know how to setup a subject filter in gmail?  Can you 
do wild cards like *[Rebol]* for subject filters?

size of DB approx 36 mb.

Took about 6 mins to move the directory.   So it appears to be a 
trade off.
Benefits of using files... 

- much more flexible (ie: a 10mb binary file in a DB is not a good 
idea)
- easier to manipulate.
- magnitude faster access time

the magnitude faster time breaks down pretty quickly when you need 
to retrive a file based on it contents not its title

No, my experiments were using the file AND it's contents via SELECT

using indexes in your database?

primary key?

my DB only had a single row.

that does not answer my question

and no, it wasn't indexed :)

there should be an imprivement with any indexing

not only that, MySQL via the protocol couldn't handle the 'rapid 
fire' query rate.

sure .. doing a DOS attack on mysql://

exactly

so if you only have one row  what is the difference between athe 
fontents of a given file and its name?

contents

the contents of the file, and the row inthe DB were identical.. a 
word °email°, and an email address

relational databases start to be useful when they are given relations 
which typically require more than one column

it is hard to relate apples and oranges if you only have apples

ahh, but I have relations as well with °7°

in fact, my relations can be spread across the net

so the net becomes on big relational DB.. just without the archaic 
DB system.

Im happy for you but to have your test make sense the relation should 
be in the relational database

in the file system the file name is a key and the contents a value

the same in a db would nbe two colums one for the name one for the 
value

well, why not run some tests yourself and let us know the results... 
talk is cheap.

the nales and falued are relatted

i had two columns in the DB ..

in a database you could give a value and return the keys as easly 
as give the keys and return the values

in a filesystem thsi is much less symetric

if one cloum cintained a constant it ought not have been there

But the DB uses the filesystem as well?  So in essence, you are skipping 
a step

the db you are using very likely uses "cooked"  storage, but  more 
advanced db use raw disk the filesystem knows nothing od and does 
not touch

well, I use MySQL.. pretty much standard these days

I am just starting to use mysql a little bit and it is a great step 
up from plain old flatfiles it is constantly improving  a cinch to 
administer, but limited for complex relations

Hey, I found a really neat GUI interface in the Picasa photo organizer 
program from Google. (http://www.google.com/downloads/) If you download 
it or already have it, just click the "Timeline" button near the 
top of the screen. I think it would be really neat if someone could 
make a REBOL clone of that screen.

It's pretty neat - found pictures I didn't know I had.

Time to delete before the wife sees them!

bad Graham ! :)