World: r3wp

Well, it is a "sideeffect" of TOOLBAR. I just found that it's a simple 
way to make button bars with right aligned buttons. OK-BAR and OK-CANCEL-BAR 
are even simpler. I do have my own system for requests, as I think 
the ones that are built in are too ugly and simple, but I'm not sure 
if they are general enough for publication.

http://hmkdesign.dk/shop9.png<--- This kind of requesters.

Ok, TOOLBAR is based on VID-FACE, so let's first check if it has 
a words dialect.
	>> print mold svv/vid-styles/face/words
	none
Good, so we can set our own without breaking anything.
	toolbar: FACE with [
		; define DATA function in the style-specific dialect

  words: compose [data (func [new args][new/data: args/2 next args])]
	]

All this does is allow a slightly easier spec. Your example from 
the blog:
	view layout [button-bar with [data: [ok-btn cancel-btn]]] 
can now be:
	view layout [button-bar data:[ok-btn cancel-btn]]

Ok, it doesn't save you much in this one example, but over time, 
it will.

Sorry, correcting that last example:
can now be:
	view layout [ button-bar data [ok-btn cancel-btn] ]

oh, thanks for that one. I've been wondering for a while how to do 
that. :-)

I want that in LIST-VIEW as well

The words dialect is not terribly obvious how it works, because it 
advances the index of ARGS by one for you. You still have to remember 
to advance by one for every argument that you understand and consume.

maybe one should make a document on that...

Good idea.

document growing here:
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/doc/vid-words-dialect.txt

explain first what WORDS does

it makes it possible for you in your style to provide words in the 
layout dialect to.. blabla

Yes, .. .hmm. I'm sort of approaching it from a different direction. 
Very informal style so far.

Ok, updated.

Oh my. That is uber cool document, and it should be part of VID docs. 
That really nicely explains, in very human fashion, how some internals 
work!

nice document there. will it stay where it is?

Nice work at that document Anton.

Permanent unless I move my site, but it should remain at that relative 
path doc/vid-words-dialect.txt

Thanks guys. I hope it's useful.

Hmm.  Anton has shifted sites 4x in recent years ... !

Why not just pay $5 per year and get a domain?

That would be another shift...

Ok... so it's "semi-permanent".

Maxim: very nice!

thanks... I can't wait to let you guys play around with all of this. 
 I am thinking of implementing magnets and physics within the editor.

what I think many developers would be willing to pay for is - real 
screen editor :-)

real screen editor?

yes, screen painter. That is the most missing part of the View scenario

oh... you mean a gui builder?

strangely I have found out that when using row/column engines like 
glayout (and others) I get 10 times quicker results than using any 
mouse driven, static page editor.

I wish I could say more about liquidator, but I don't want to increase 
the hype too much.  for now, I just wanted to share the first signs 
of successfully automated node creation  :-)

... screen painter. That is the most missing part ...

 Would something like http://www.dobeash.com/RecordMan/designer-guide.html
 be a good start?

eh, what is that? :-)

I think it would

graham... are you're just trying to change your public image?  ;-)

not really!

Btiffin, nice site. So what's Cheyenne doing for you?

Maxim: very nice graphic!

james; Umm, letting me live in REBOL land.  :)  Debian comes with 
hundreds of web

environments, I'm sticking with REBOL as much possible.  And I can, 
if needed, modify

Cheyenne in a crunch,  a lot faster than I can grok through Apache, 
etc...


It's my first crack at being a server.  Lots to learn, and I plan 
on getting knocked to

the ground a few times, but that's ok.  Everything is rsync'ed from 
Spike (the main)

to Chester (the redundant) so I'll do my best to protect client data.


The plan is progressing to have a RebGUI frontend for clients to 
change pieces of 

their webpage,  (through REBOL/LNS running on the server), so the 
people

of my smalltown can have a web page with zero html experience.   
Fancy stuff, I go
on the clock...cheaply.  It is a smalltown.  :)   Today is day 1.

btiffin: yes, very nice. impressive start.

Yep.  A start.  Big plans for this smalltown.  Whether they like 
it...or not.  :)  But after

today I have to worry about uugggh, marketing.  And thanks Anton. 
 It means a lot
(to me) to hear that (from you).

Very cool indeed Brian! The cards have a wonderful "tactile" look; 
the push-pins need to be more realisitc to match them though (just 
a constructive thought :-). That is, they're at an extreme angle, 
and the pin isn't actually pushed in to the "board".

I'll mention that to the Graphic Designer.  She is just getting to 
the point of having

fun with the GIMP.  Thanks Gregg.  I just wish I didn't have to constrain 
her due to IE
lack of transparency support.

Second day in, Graphic Designer just got offered a job.  Maybe bad 
for me, but I'm 
feeling pretty motivated.  :)

michael: thanks!

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4587is a good match 
for that site IMHO :) (its a lot more blue

(its a lot more blue than the orange part on that page)

So is the old ber-sdk somewhat official again? :)
(whats with the new?^^)

yes, it is the "old" BEER-SDK (1) with one bug corrected.

Thanks btiffin for the update. Look forward to hearing how that progresses.