World: r3wp

Graham, can you point me to his dialect?

http://www.pointillistic.com/open-REBOL/moa/steel/retools/remark/index.html

it looks to me as if he's creating some form of pseudo XML tags. 
my dialect looks like any other rebol code (yes, I care a lot about 
the appearance of the dialect), and I think his goal is more to be 
for template, where my dialect is not meant for templates at all. 
My goal is to describe webpages in as little code as possible in 
100% REBOL style.

Perhaps your dialect is similar then to the goals of Andrew's one?

it looks more like it, but it's still requiring far more typing than 
mine does.

for example, table layouts are a dialect on its own to describe the 
layout of a single row and then repeat that, where his uses a more 
rigid html-like structure.

and my dialect can be very terse with a table description. given 
that 'data is a block of objects, all I have to write is:

table table-style rows data


and then it renders the table with each object as one row. 'table-style 
would be a css class.

I guess ultimately it depends on what saves the most typing while 
allowing the greatest flexibility.

oops ...abusing this group

BrettH: I wasn't aware of the specific fact that Lulu.com won't deliver 
to some addresses. I'm afraid I don't have a solution as publishing 
through Lulu.com seems to be the only way that the book can be economically 
published (in paper).

Re: Google Charts API -- there's not much finesse to it, just looks 
nicer than the ugly API:

	view layout [
		image chart [
			size: 150x40
			type: 'sparkline
			data: [45 55 38 35 37 58 59 64 60]
			color: black
			area: [color solid 255.255.255.204]
		]
	]

There's definitely room for improvement and consolidating features...

Cool stuff.

Chris, I get an error...
connecting to: chart.apis.google.com

** Access Error: Cannot open /c/documents and settings/brock/application 
data/rebol/public/chart.apis.google.com/c
hart?cht=ls&chs=150x40&...
** Where: read-thru
** Near: write/binary file data
if all

I'm using View 2.6.3.  I simply did...

>> do http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/view-script.r?script=charts-api.r
then pasted your example.  Any suggestions?

; I think you need to save it first from the library, or can you:


do http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/download-a-script.r?script-name=charts-api.r

My bad, I guess you can : )  I haven't tested it on 2.6.3, only 2.7.6

It looks like a problem with 'load-image in that Rebol version.  
Try changing the -- image chart [ -- line to -- image load chart 
[

Or on that platform, I tested on OS X.  It saves the file in the 
cache with the full query string on it...

Thanks Chris, I'll give it a check later and report back.

Your "Instant Gratification" view example worked

The results of the search engine at Lulu.com don't always show all 
of the chapters of Rebol -programmer's guide. The chapter  that have 
previously been released are:

  Chapter 1 - Discover Rebol in an Hour (Êhttp://www.lulu.com/content/2092020
  )

 Chapter 2 - The Rebol Language (Êhttp://www.lulu.com/content/2160570
 )Ê

 Chapter 3 - GUI, graphics and sound (Êhttp://www.lulu.com/content/2175653
 )

 Chapter 4 - Networking and the Internet (Êhttp://www.lulu.com/content/2160633
 )

 Chapter 5 - Rebol for Pros (Êhttp://www.lulu.com/content/2845102
 )

How many chapters to go?

Good work, BTW!

Thanks. Just one chapter to go. I hope that it can be published in 
two to three weeks time (the basic translation is finished but needs 
editing).. The complete book should be ready about three to four 
weeks after that.

Great! I'll buy my wife a copy!

Then she finally knows what I'm always doing, late at night ;-)

Lol

Always the optimist :)

Peter:  Great to see you've finally finished your translation and 
other work on the book.  I look forward to hearing about the paper 
version.

Great. Let's hope this helps this spreads REBOL!!!

Ashley: Thanks. I'll let Olivier know.

Paul: I think the preview price is that of printed book which isn't 
available yet. Lulu.com displays prices in the currency set in your 
account.

I see someone has added a Business Group, for all those using the 
World Default groups.  In there I see Ann-Reply, which should logically 
be close to the Announce group, no?

I don't follow Brock. What is World Default?

Right click any Divider...  You'll see a setting for WorldMaster 
Dividers.  It's the World Default and controlled by World Masters...

I use the Worldmaster Dividers option, but I don't see the words 
"World Default" anywhere. That's what I' was confused about.


Now, how can I add the Announce group to the Business divider? The 
All Groups divider is too long to drag it with that open.

... get a bigger screen  ;-).  That's a good question.  it should 
be feature that can be selected from the group name itself you would 
think.

Hmm, maybe temporarily rename the group with a Z prior to the group 
name, then sort alphabetically and drag from the bottom of the list 
to the group in question?

amacleod: The cost of colour printing at Lulu.com seems to be 7 times 
as much as black & white printing. I guess that's the reason that 
most computer books are printed in black & white.

PeterWood,

Hows the quality of the binding? Would it be better to buy the pdf 
version and have it printed and bound locally? I would not mind having 
access to the pdf too.
and..

There is nothing worse than a cheap bound where the pages start falling 
out...

I had a quick look at the previous chapters I bought. THe PDF's are 
also black and white. Shame!

Get the pdf ... and you can bind it as many times as you like.  See 
Ladislav's notes on REBOL bindology.

Is that a pun?

yes, it was a joke

I haven't got a physical copy of the book yet, they take a long time 
to get ot my part of the workd.. I have a copy of another booked 
printed by Lulu.com, the binding seems no different from most books 
oyu buy in a bookstore. 

Does anybody else have any experience with Lulu.com books?

It might be worth looking at the economics of a pdf printed and bound 
locally versus a Lulu.com printed book and shipping charges.


The only difference is that the pdf does not include the cover. (This 
is due to the production process).

I saw a German distributor who could make hardbacks from PDF files 
and even give them ISBN codes (perhaps Lulu does that too). I'll 
see if I can find some details on this soon.

http://www.bod.de/index.php?id=200<-- ok, there is no English page, 
so it may not be useful to you.

Thanks Henrik that would be good.


You can get an ISBN from Lulu.com but at the cost of 50% of the purchase 
price of the book going to retailers. Unless you are going to sell 
tens of thousands of books, it isn't worth it from the author's point 
of view.