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amacleod 13-May-2009 [1572x2] | How long does it take for it to fetch website data (Who-is etc.) |
Never mind I had to refresh the page | |
Janko 13-May-2009 [1574] | bots wake up and look for tasks every 2-3 minutes now |
PeterWood 13-May-2009 [1575] | I have no such place yet .. except me here or my email - I've created a !Site-Assistant group to be such a place. |
Anton 13-May-2009 [1576] | Janko http://www.site-assistant.com/sign-up.rsp recieve -> receive |
Janko 13-May-2009 [1577x2] | Peter: wow, nice :D |
Anton.. thanks, I fixed that .. and also same mistake on 6 other places | |
Maxim 13-May-2009 [1579] | very nice work janko, professional looking out of the box :-) |
Janko 13-May-2009 [1580] | Thanks Maxim , now it looks a little more pro after you guys told me for so many typos :) |
RobertS 15-May-2009 [1581] | I get a SQLite error when I try to add my first domain address; I was able to create an empty group OK |
Janko 15-May-2009 [1582x2] | RobertS: hm.. what kind of error, does it maybe says something like "database locked" or something else? |
Hm.. I see that last 2 users had to have errors as their domains didn't get passed to the bots. I will go figuring out tonight what caused this. | |
mhinson 17-May-2009 [1584] | Great article on parse Ladislav. This was exactly what I first looked for when I very first started looking at Rebol. Thanks. |
BrianH 17-May-2009 [1585] | Great article, Ladislav. Just tweaked the grammar and added a link to tthe Parse Project at the end - Peta wrote a lot about Parse there. |
Ladislav 18-May-2009 [1586x2] | thanks, mhinson and Brian |
please, can somebody improve the look of the table in the article? (it looks awful, I think) | |
Janko 18-May-2009 [1588x3] | I don't think it looks awfull , it fits the general wiki style ... only if heading would be bold or something ... but I don't have any exp. with wiki syntax for tables ... you have few CSS examples of fancy tables here |
I can't wait to read it as I already said like your articles a lot and parse vs re interests me a lot.. I just nee to find some peacefull time to zone it | |
zone it = zone in | |
Anton 24-May-2009 [1591] | PeterWood, that string encoding doc and functions look very useful. Nice work. |
Ladislav 13-Jun-2009 [1592x2] | Thanks, Gregg. BTW, sorry for discussing in Announce, my bad. |
When I see that "Very simple. Easy to debug. " in the http://www.rebol.net/wiki/Inclusion_Methods , I am quite confused about the meaning. What is it that is easy to debug? (the DO function?) | |
PeterWood 13-Jun-2009 [1594x2] | It perhaps makes sense if you consider what errors you could possibly make coding using DO: incorrectly spell do miss the % from a filename omit the REBOL header from a script file do an unset word I guess you could consider debugging those errors as being easy -- though I'm sure you can think of many more possible errors with the DO function than I :-) |
On a quick look at the wiki page, the question "why do modules have to be dynamically loaded?" seems to jump out of the page. | |
Ladislav 13-Jun-2009 [1596x2] | hmm, but when I consider, that every build is actually ad hoc, then it means, that you have to debug many times, while in case of a standard method you just debug the method, not ad hoc script/s |
so "easy to debug" versus "no debug" | |
PeterWood 13-Jun-2009 [1598x2] | Do you not think that it is more a case of either "debugging the ad-hoc script" or "debugging the input to the standard method"? In the sense of debugging either a shell script to compile and link a C program or a makefile. |
Isn't the real question is can you sensibly compare the pros and cons of elements of ad-hoc methods (DO, LOAD) with complete standardised methods (PREBOL, INCLUDE)? Perhaps the better comparison would be to compare ad-hoc inclusion against standard methods? | |
Ladislav 13-Jun-2009 [1600x4] | Well, that would require a real-life example? |
(but it surely is worth considering to produce such an example for the demonstration purpose) | |
Just an idea about ad hoc versus standard debugging: "standard" actually means a specialized dialect optimized for the purpose at hand (so, easy to debug by definition). Ad hoc script means a general purpose language using more than just DO and LOAD, since they do not suffice on their own. | |
I think, that the dialect is the proper way | |
PeterWood 13-Jun-2009 [1604] | Personally, I agree with you. I also generally favour "static" inclusion over "dynamic". Perhaps I am unusualin Rebol in that I am happy to work with a build then test approach (I usually take a test-driven approach to coding.) |
Maxim 13-Jun-2009 [1605x2] | my view is that choice is the right answer. use what makes sense, import, slim, include. I have an even higher level than include with distro-bot. but still use do directly often. |
ladislav: under modules in the inclusion methods, you write: "Not usable for building distributions using INCLUDE method. " I see no reason why not... can you elaborate further? | |
Ladislav 14-Jun-2009 [1607] | I can't, since I did not write that |
Maxim 14-Jun-2009 [1608] | ok |
Ladislav 14-Jun-2009 [1609x3] | (it is either by Carl or by Brian, if I understand the history page correctly) |
...and the winner is... Carl! | |
Since Carl seems to dislike the fact, that the PREBOL/INCLUDE dialect uses #issues as "keywords", I tried to list other alternatives (words). Does any of them look usable to you? | |
Maxim 14-Jun-2009 [1612] | I actually like #issues. |
Ladislav 14-Jun-2009 [1613x3] | yes, #issues have clear advantages - no conflict can occur |
but, it looks to me, that if Carl initially picked a word alternative, we would be happily using that without worring about potential trouble | |
I know, that issues raise the efficiency question (to Carl, I guess), but that does not seem to be critical (YMMV) | |
Henrik 14-Jun-2009 [1616x2] | like many other datatypes, it would be nice to have one that is directly usable for preprocessing. |
like we have word!, why not keyword! ? | |
Ladislav 14-Jun-2009 [1618x3] | ...you mean using the #issue syntax? |
(that is what Carl considered and I guess he even asked that on some forum) | |
...but there probabyl were some asking for the current state (all #issues are special strings) to be kept, so he probably gave up | |
Henrik 14-Jun-2009 [1621] | Issue might be usable for other things as it was originally not made for preprocessing, as far as I can tell. If there was one just for this, rather than haphazardly kidnapping other datatypes, that would be great. |
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