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Graham
4-Mar-2005
[165x2]
Who's the target market?
these are not home use devices are they?
JaimeVargas
4-Mar-2005
[167x3]
I am glad you guys like it ;-)
Not et all. These are use for WISP (Wireless ISP), or HotSpot providers.
They can be used on the battle field by the military too. But I am 
pacifist so I had not persued that road.
Graham
4-Mar-2005
[170x2]
I just joined up my office with a wireless provider
we switched from DSL to wireless radio
shadwolf
4-Mar-2005
[172]
As far as I see on the site RASTA is dedicated to outdoor application 
like neighbour of houses
Graham
4-Mar-2005
[173]
the radio modem is tiny .. and battery backed up as well.
shadwolf
4-Mar-2005
[174x2]
http://www.whywire.com/applications.html
jaime that was not a bad remark not at all in fact I like the RASTA 
acronym it's pretty fun  ;)
Graham
4-Mar-2005
[176]
Perhaps I could rebroadcast my cable signal using these devices to 
my neighbours ?  :)
shadwolf
4-Mar-2005
[177]
yes and to all your block ;)
Graham
4-Mar-2005
[178]
setup community LANs ...
shadwolf
4-Mar-2005
[179]
it's a hight range difusion interface  ;)
Ammon
4-Mar-2005
[180]
Sounds perfect for where I'm at right now...  Small community with 
several friends nearby.  I'm always helping them with their computers 
anyhow.   With a couple of these I could have us all connected. ;-)
JaimeVargas
4-Mar-2005
[181]
Graham: Yes, you could rebroadcast the signal to your neighbors
BrianW
4-Mar-2005
[182x2]
That would be kind of cool. Pity I don't like many of my neighbors 
in my current neighborhood
Well, my current building at least :-)
JaimeVargas
4-Mar-2005
[184x2]
As matter fact I had build a lot of those networks close to 100 sites.
One of the networks is spread over 50 km radius connecting the stores 
of a retail chain in the city of bogota. This is going to be the 
next case study.
Graham
4-Mar-2005
[186]
what's the cost of a broadcast unit, and a receiver?
JaimeVargas
4-Mar-2005
[187x3]
Between 1300 and 1500 depending on the number of radios
For single cpu client access we had the "Horizon" cards they are 
at $80
For Small Biz LAN we are coming out with a unit that will go around 
$400. I am trying to make it close to $200, but still struggling 
with some costs.
Graham
4-Mar-2005
[190x2]
what radio frequency is used?
what's the broadcast range for the small biz lan unit
JaimeVargas
4-Mar-2005
[192x2]
2.4 Ghz with 2400 series. We will have in about a two months the 
5800 series which operates at 5.8Ghz, possibly at 4.9Ghz too.
With a good antenna the small biz lan can do 30 km
Graham
4-Mar-2005
[194]
2.4 is the same frequency as the 802.11 g isn't it?
JaimeVargas
4-Mar-2005
[195]
Yes, and a lot of other stuff, telephones, meters, etc.
Graham
4-Mar-2005
[196]
My father's house is about 50m down the road .. so if I were to get 
one of these small biz units, mount it outside on the roof, and he 
were to get a radio modem, I would be able to provide him with access 
to my cable internet?
Pekr
4-Mar-2005
[197]
Jaime - where is the rebol advantage?
Graham
4-Mar-2005
[198]
probably 100m and not 50 m
JaimeVargas
4-Mar-2005
[199x2]
We use the same code to configure the unit. To generate the admin 
tools. To design the networks. And all uses the same code base. Everything 
runs of different OS.
Graham. 100% yes.
Pekr
4-Mar-2005
[201]
I have friend here in CZ, who did very GOOD AP, where you can use 
card of any arbitrary chipset producer (Atheros, others). He uses 
IP2K CPU from Ubicom. The same one we use for our projects. But he 
has a bit difficulcy to sell here. It is much better but also more 
expensive than e.g. Ovislink.
Graham
4-Mar-2005
[202]
ok, let me know when these units are available :)
Pekr
4-Mar-2005
[203]
btw - he has also traffic shaping ...
JaimeVargas
4-Mar-2005
[204]
Well I have issues with UBICOM. Our AP does a lot more that just 
route the pkts.  We can provide a lot functionalty because we had 
a real processor.
Pekr
4-Mar-2005
[205]
what real processor?
JaimeVargas
4-Mar-2005
[206x3]
586
Or PPC
The ubicom is cool as it lets you create pci interfaces by flipping 
pins.  But then you are restricted in the OS, and you need to use 
Ubicoms intellectual property and tools. I use openbsd.
Pekr
4-Mar-2005
[209x3]
Although it is in Czech, there are screenshots for you to see what 
can be configured - http://www.mikrovlny.cz/prilohy/GIOMEX.pdf
What you call proprietary toos I call pretty advanced SDK you get 
with demoboard :-)
he uses the "Rebol" way - not typically a webserver to configure, 
but externall app (currently for linux and Win)
JaimeVargas
4-Mar-2005
[212x2]
Same here.
What does your friend use to produce the external tools?  GTK?
Pekr
4-Mar-2005
[214]
btw - we were looking for ideal router, proxy, traffic shaper, wireless, 
etc. kind of system, first we played with BSD based m0n0wall, then 
we found what we regard nearly ideal, although not necessarily free, 
but way cheaper than SmoothWall etc. Have you ever heard of Mikrotik.com? 
Guy from Latvia IIRC, very clever design, go and study a bit, maybe 
you will find some good things in there. What is cool with their 
system is scripting language for dynamic creation of some rules/configuration 
on the fly ... they use externall app too, which is downloaded to 
your machine from router though ...