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Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1722] | Initially it's centred in the panel .. but shrink it down to minimum and then resize it, it falls to the bottom |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1723] | Yes, if you downsize a face beyond minimum size, resizing will screw up. That's one of the things I've not figured out how to fix yet. |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1724x2] | the text in white also goes crazy |
So, can't you specify a minimum resize value to stop this? | |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1726] | There are bound to be a lot of bugs in it. Maybe I should set up a curecode for it. |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1727] | and a SVN |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1728] | No, the only way is a minimum size on the window. |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1729] | Your well developed table style I guess is not ported ... |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1730x2] | It's much the same resize code as Brian and I showed two years ago. |
LIST-VIEW works fine in it. My internal 0.0.54 is adapted to it. | |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1732] | oh .. ok :) |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1733] | but, this holds a possible replacement, one that is much better designed and way smaller. |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1734x2] | No accordion style tab panels ?? |
:) | |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1736] | vertical tabs that collapse? that's probably possible to do. |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1737] | I've got one in rebgui ... but it's all hard coded ... I wouldn't know how to generalise it. |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1738] | maybe I can figure something out. |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1739] | I think the basic style set people are looking for are those that are used in JS. |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1740] | can you point to an image or example? |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1741x3] | tabs ( accordions ), tables, grids |
Sure ... let me find one | |
http://www.screencast.com/users/SynapseEMR/folders/Jing/media/74ffa498-9830-49f5-9c91-2de7f8bcaef3 | |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1744] | I see. Yours is quite advanced. My first try would be a simpler one, and we would have to see where we could go from there. |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1745x5] | Probably a better example http://www.screencast.com/users/SynapseEMR/folders/Jing/media/fe4163c3-1388-45ce-a93c-c2799bf7b3dd |
I was trying to emulate the Microoft Common User Interface aka CUI | |
Microsoft | |
The problem with mine appears with lots of data as I don't use a face iterator but build everything in memory. | |
So, how would you compare your vid exxtensions with RebGui ? | |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1750] | I haven't done much of a comparison, but I think if you are relying on RebGui, it would not be wise to switch. Also I wouldn't market this as a separate, new toolkit, but as VID as it should be. RebGui is probably more stable. There are still plenty of things left to do here. Even though many of the things I've done here are very generic, it has primarily been designed to solve specific problems with some apps I've had to build a few months ago. |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1751x2] | at least 9 months ago |
I was wondering if someone were starting off from scratch .. better to use rebgui or your extension kit? | |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1753] | your second example looks simpler BTW. |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1754x2] | that was an earlier demo |
The thing I miss are drop and drag calendars, and an editable grid | |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1756x2] | It's hard to say. I don't want to steal any thunder from Ashley's work, as it's tremendously well done and obviously works in bigger scenarios. I guess it's a matter of trying the other if you don't like the first one you tried. |
I've been thinking about generic drag and drop methods, but haven't reached a conclusion yet. If it is to be done, it should be done generally, so it's simple to apply to any style. | |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1758x2] | Just reading your announce and it seems you have concentrated more on the fundamentals with focus control, keyboard use |
and data entry | |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1760] | You can get surprisingly far with that. :-) I've focused the most on that, yes. |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1761] | Is there a way to "reset" the gui after bad resizing? |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1762x2] | unfortunately not |
(I'm open to ideas, though) | |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1764x2] | save all the flags and just reset them? |
Anyway, you need to create your own group here for people to discuss your extension set :) | |
Henrik 29-Aug-2009 [1766x2] | we have an old VID+ group :-) |
nah, creating a new group. one sec. | |
Graham 29-Aug-2009 [1768] | VID+ was for R3 |
Pekr 30-Aug-2009 [1769x2] | Back from training course. Read new VID message from ML on my cellphone :-) I was very surprised, that nearly at the end of R2 lifestyle, where RebGUI is the king, something like that is coming. |
I will be realistic - have not studied the styles yet, but from the style browser, I am very disappointed by the look :-( It really looks like Amiga 1.3, 25 yars old. Or some very old Unix. Who uses such plain buttons and field, with so basic borders? Or is there any skin system attached? As for completness, still the most complete add-on kit for R2 VID is some 6 years or more old Romano Paolo Tenca's one - tabbing, grid, etc. supported ... | |
Henrik 30-Aug-2009 [1771] | Pekr, read the docs. |
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