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Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1730x2]
It's much the same resize code as Brian and I showed two years ago.
LIST-VIEW works fine in it. My internal 0.0.54 is adapted to it.
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1732]
oh .. ok :)
Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1733]
but, this holds a possible replacement, one that is much better designed 
and way smaller.
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1734x2]
No accordion style tab panels ??
:)
Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1736]
vertical tabs that collapse? that's probably possible to do.
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1737]
I've got one in rebgui ... but it's all hard coded ... I wouldn't 
know how to generalise it.
Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1738]
maybe I can figure something out.
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1739]
I think the basic style set people are looking for are those that 
are used in JS.
Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1740]
can you point to an image or example?
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1741x3]
tabs ( accordions ), tables, grids
Sure ... let me find one
http://www.screencast.com/users/SynapseEMR/folders/Jing/media/74ffa498-9830-49f5-9c91-2de7f8bcaef3
Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1744]
I see. Yours is quite advanced. My first try would be a simpler one, 
and we would have to see where we could go from there.
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1745x5]
Probably a better example http://www.screencast.com/users/SynapseEMR/folders/Jing/media/fe4163c3-1388-45ce-a93c-c2799bf7b3dd
I was trying to emulate the Microoft Common User Interface  aka CUI
Microsoft
The problem with mine appears with lots of data as I don't use a 
face iterator but build everything in memory.
So, how would you compare your vid exxtensions with RebGui ?
Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1750]
I haven't done much of a comparison, but I think if you are relying 
on RebGui, it would not be wise to switch. Also I wouldn't market 
this as a separate, new toolkit, but as VID as it should be. RebGui 
is probably more stable. There are still plenty of things left to 
do here. Even though many of the things I've done here are very generic, 
it has primarily been designed to solve specific problems with some 
apps I've had to build a few months ago.
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1751x2]
at least 9 months ago
I was wondering if someone were starting off from scratch .. better 
to use rebgui or your extension kit?
Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1753]
your second example looks simpler BTW.
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1754x2]
that was an earlier demo
The thing I miss are drop and drag calendars, and an editable grid
Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1756x2]
It's hard to say. I don't want to steal any thunder from Ashley's 
work, as it's tremendously well done and obviously works in bigger 
scenarios. I guess it's a matter of trying the other if you don't 
like the first one you tried.
I've been thinking about generic drag and drop methods, but haven't 
reached a conclusion yet. If it is to be done, it should be done 
generally, so it's simple to apply to any style.
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1758x2]
Just reading your announce and it seems you have concentrated more 
on the fundamentals with focus control, keyboard use
and data entry
Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1760]
You can get surprisingly far with that. :-) I've focused the most 
on that, yes.
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1761]
Is there a way to "reset" the gui after bad resizing?
Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1762x2]
unfortunately not
(I'm open to ideas, though)
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1764x2]
save all the flags and just reset them?
Anyway, you need to create your own group here for people to discuss 
your extension set :)
Henrik
29-Aug-2009
[1766x2]
we have an old VID+ group :-)
nah, creating a new group. one sec.
Graham
29-Aug-2009
[1768]
VID+ was for R3
Pekr
30-Aug-2009
[1769x2]
Back from training course. Read new VID message from  ML on my cellphone 
:-) I was very surprised, that nearly at the end of R2 lifestyle, 
where RebGUI is the king, something like that is coming.
I will be realistic - have not studied the styles yet, but from the 
style browser, I am very disappointed by the look :-( It really looks 
like Amiga 1.3, 25 yars old. Or some very old Unix. Who uses such 
plain buttons and field, with so basic borders? Or is there any skin 
system attached?


As for completness, still the most complete add-on kit for R2 VID 
is some 6 years or more old Romano Paolo Tenca's one - tabbing, grid, 
etc. supported ...
Henrik
30-Aug-2009
[1771]
Pekr, read the docs.
Graham
30-Aug-2009
[1772]
Romano's kit was GPL ... had drag and drop between styles but no 
one could use it with that license.
Dockimbel
1-Sep-2009
[1773]
Cyphre systray: great news!
Reichart
1-Sep-2009
[1774]
Agreed.... this is the type of thing that gets people to use REBOL 
more.
Pekr
1-Sep-2009
[1775]
I proposed to speed-up REBOL developments by bounty system, like 
Amiga or other communities had. I think this might be a great idea 
.... simply put - I would like to have LDAP protocol? OK, maybe community 
gathers enough money, so that e.g. Softinnov can pick-it up, and 
does not need to work for free necessarily ...
Steeve
1-Sep-2009
[1776x2]
We need a site for this purpose (Rebol bounty hunters)...
Who can do that ?
Hum, bad idea because we need this site to build this site.
Pekr, can you show us a site like that ?
Dockimbel
1-Sep-2009
[1778]
Pekr, I was thinking about that since a long time, but never proposed 
it due to the small size of the community...
Steeve
1-Sep-2009
[1779]
Found one: http://www.amigabounty.net/