World: r3wp

Sounds perfect for where I'm at right now...  Small community with 
several friends nearby.  I'm always helping them with their computers 
anyhow.   With a couple of these I could have us all connected. ;-)

Graham: Yes, you could rebroadcast the signal to your neighbors

That would be kind of cool. Pity I don't like many of my neighbors 
in my current neighborhood

Well, my current building at least :-)

As matter fact I had build a lot of those networks close to 100 sites.

One of the networks is spread over 50 km radius connecting the stores 
of a retail chain in the city of bogota. This is going to be the 
next case study.

what's the cost of a broadcast unit, and a receiver?

Between 1300 and 1500 depending on the number of radios

For single cpu client access we had the "Horizon" cards they are 
at $80

For Small Biz LAN we are coming out with a unit that will go around 
$400. I am trying to make it close to $200, but still struggling 
with some costs.

what radio frequency is used?

what's the broadcast range for the small biz lan unit

2.4 Ghz with 2400 series. We will have in about a two months the 
5800 series which operates at 5.8Ghz, possibly at 4.9Ghz too.

With a good antenna the small biz lan can do 30 km

2.4 is the same frequency as the 802.11 g isn't it?

Yes, and a lot of other stuff, telephones, meters, etc.

My father's house is about 50m down the road .. so if I were to get 
one of these small biz units, mount it outside on the roof, and he 
were to get a radio modem, I would be able to provide him with access 
to my cable internet?

Jaime - where is the rebol advantage?

probably 100m and not 50 m

We use the same code to configure the unit. To generate the admin 
tools. To design the networks. And all uses the same code base. Everything 
runs of different OS.

Graham. 100% yes.

I have friend here in CZ, who did very GOOD AP, where you can use 
card of any arbitrary chipset producer (Atheros, others). He uses 
IP2K CPU from Ubicom. The same one we use for our projects. But he 
has a bit difficulcy to sell here. It is much better but also more 
expensive than e.g. Ovislink.

ok, let me know when these units are available :)

btw - he has also traffic shaping ...

Well I have issues with UBICOM. Our AP does a lot more that just 
route the pkts.  We can provide a lot functionalty because we had 
a real processor.

what real processor?

586

Or PPC

The ubicom is cool as it lets you create pci interfaces by flipping 
pins.  But then you are restricted in the OS, and you need to use 
Ubicoms intellectual property and tools. I use openbsd.

Although it is in Czech, there are screenshots for you to see what 
can be configured - http://www.mikrovlny.cz/prilohy/GIOMEX.pdf

What you call proprietary toos I call pretty advanced SDK you get 
with demoboard :-)

he uses the "Rebol" way - not typically a webserver to configure, 
but externall app (currently for linux and Win)

Same here.

What does your friend use to produce the external tools?  GTK?

btw - we were looking for ideal router, proxy, traffic shaper, wireless, 
etc. kind of system, first we played with BSD based m0n0wall, then 
we found what we regard nearly ideal, although not necessarily free, 
but way cheaper than SmoothWall etc. Have you ever heard of Mikrotik.com? 
Guy from Latvia IIRC, very clever design, go and study a bit, maybe 
you will find some good things in there. What is cool with their 
system is scripting language for dynamic creation of some rules/configuration 
on the fly ... they use externall app too, which is downloaded to 
your machine from router though ...

I thought that Rebol inside your system could do something similar, 
e.g. introduce some kind of dialect or hooks to system, so you would 
be able to act upon packet content etc., but dunno if rebol would 
be fast enough here ....

Yes. Our systems is similar to Mikrotik.

jaime for linux GUI you get a lot of possibilities rebol.view, WX, 
GTK+; QT, X11, TK

Pekr. I think you will find our configuration tools really cool. 
 I will be releasing some updates to the website in a next month. 
 So keep your eyes open.

ok, can I find more on your website?

ah, should read your reply first ...

I find rebol, very close to write once release everywere. If we had 
OSX here today. It will be perfect.

I had my tools available in OpenBSD, Win, Linux, and FreeBSD.

well, I think very important can be that rebol server part - If you 
would be able to create scripting language (which looks simplicity-wise 
very similar to rebol on mikrotik) for such purposes using dialect 
for e.g., it would open your device to configure whatever.

and PC part? You could be ok with core on osx too and textual console, 
like in old DOS days or Linux install screens ...

Mikrotik scripting examples - http://www.mikrotik.com/docs/ros/2.8/appex/scripting1.content

That sounds good to me.  I'd like to have the ability to control 
the packets coming through Jaime's Rasta device.

graham you could put the rasta midway between your house and your 
dads house to minimize range to both

what is RASTA in english? Does it mean anything? :-)

It means "The Way" in hurdu