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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

[unknown: 10]
1-Mar-2006
[1024]
exept for the Fonts in draw ofcourse
Henrik
1-Mar-2006
[1025]
no problems with 1.3.2 under ubuntu linux here (not even the ubuntu 
version)
Carl
1-Mar-2006
[1026]
So, are you using the Ubuntu version or the older lib version?
[unknown: 10]
1-Mar-2006
[1027]
Im using "slackware 10.2" with  libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
Henrik
1-Mar-2006
[1028]
just the older lib version, I haven't downloaded the ubuntu version 
at all... did you make the ubuntu version because of Hoary's lib 
problems?
Carl
1-Mar-2006
[1029x2]
Actually, the older one no longer ran on half the Linux boxes here.
So, question is, which one to pick for AltME build?
[unknown: 10]
1-Mar-2006
[1031]
...Silence...tells more then words.... (well i could say take the 
latest 1.3.2 lib..) not easy for an outsider to descide ;-)
james_nak
1-Mar-2006
[1032]
Carl,  the Clear-All button could go in the "list options" though 
that's a bit hidden.
[unknown: 10]
1-Mar-2006
[1033]
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 is thought default in the kernels 2.4.26 
and up i guess but not sure.. is hard to find that Lib as standalown 
..(if you need it)
Carl
1-Mar-2006
[1034]
There are a few other gotcha libs in the mix like. 
libXaw7.so.7
james_nak
1-Mar-2006
[1035]
You could also have a clear + date (up to ) feature.
Carl
1-Mar-2006
[1036]
I've got a new debian distro that came in yesterday... let me see 
what it's got going. Back later with info.
[unknown: 10]
1-Mar-2006
[1037x2]
debian and slackware are the two that dont mess with the original 
distribution when it comes to library's.. I guess it'll work..
a very nice example when programming on different linux distributions 
is to keep an Eye dies days on the "MALLOC_CHECK" environment setting 
or auto_make/config prebuild releases, this can cause lots of debugging 
pain because its able by default to supress core dump while it should 
not, and thats not always mentioned in the distributions your working 
on. ..any.. offtopic..
Tomc
1-Mar-2006
[1039x2]
seems you can't just build one linux version and claim liniux as 
a supported platform
I would say at leasr tww maune three versions with different libraries
[unknown: 10]
1-Mar-2006
[1041]
...redhat started it all...or was it YggDrasil ? ;-)
Tomc
1-Mar-2006
[1042]
or we could compile our own
Carl
1-Mar-2006
[1043]
Moving to linux group.
Graham
1-Mar-2006
[1044x3]
Hmm.  I quit normally, but when I logged on just now a whole bunch 
of groups came up red.  Each of these groups, the messages are yellowed 
indicating that theyre old ie. no new messages.
Ahh... okay, I opened up with the old Altme.
I guess I now have two installations :(
Anton
2-Mar-2006
[1047x2]
Yes, what is the advice on that ? The beta download page:
http://www.altme.com/beta.html
advises:

# Both your AltME world server and clients need to be updated.
They 
both must be running the newer code. If you only use the newer client, 
but not a newer world server, you will see very few changes.
So is safeworlds running a new beta server for the beta clients to 
test with ?
Henrik
2-Mar-2006
[1049x2]
Is there a list of changes coming up?
anton, I made a little test world to play with, if you are curious 
to see the file sharing working
Anton
2-Mar-2006
[1051]
Thanks Henrik, but not right at the moment.
Graham
2-Mar-2006
[1052]
I restarted rebol-world for this purpose, but can't connect to it!
Henrik
2-Mar-2006
[1053]
graham, your own server on your own machine?
Graham
2-Mar-2006
[1054x4]
Oopps .. I lie.
It's up and running now.
though every ****** thing is red!
henrik, you seem to have an account there too!
Henrik
2-Mar-2006
[1058]
I do?
Graham
2-Mar-2006
[1059x2]
henrikmk
It's the world I used to maintain continuity between reboln crashes
Henrik
2-Mar-2006
[1061]
I see, logging in now :-)
Graham
2-Mar-2006
[1062]
I see Altme has an open folder icon, and this uses a system call 
to open up the local folder.  I can see the dos box open up temporarily.
Ingo
2-Mar-2006
[1063]
One thing that always annoys me about AltME is the connect/disconnect 
handling.

Everytime I get disconnected from the internet (which happens several 
times a day), I drop out of the group that I am reading, and have 
to acknowledge that I read the message that I AltME "isn't able to 
connect at the moment". Of course, when I go back to the group I 
was reading, the markers for new messages have already been cleared.

Same when I try to reconnect "Do _really_ want to reconnect to rebol3????" 
Of course not, what do you think why I clicked there? And then I 
drop out of the group ...
Anton
2-Mar-2006
[1064]
Is that not fixed in the new beta ?
Ingo
2-Mar-2006
[1065x2]
no
at least not with 1.1.24 on windows
Anton
2-Mar-2006
[1067]
mmm.. ok. Well, yes, here's our chance to improve this aspect of 
altme.
[unknown: 5]
2-Mar-2006
[1068x2]
I'm getting a lot of  "invalid data type during recycle" messages 
in the new Altme.  I got them like 4 times in a row when trying to 
click on the !Altme world and then decided to click another world 
and then come back into this one and was finally able to.
But that is what beta's are all about.
Henrik
2-Mar-2006
[1070]
the sync bug is also still there
Pekr
2-Mar-2006
[1071]
yes, of course it is, it was never solved ...
Ingo
2-Mar-2006
[1072]
Funny thing,

my internet connection is practically dead, no email, no webserving, 
but AltME still works ...
Henrik
2-Mar-2006
[1073]
ingo, yeah it's pretty cool that way. I could even connect, when 
ping didn't work!