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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

Brock
19-Sep-2006
[1815x3]
I agree with the starting part, but thought that they had servers 
located in more than one location.  The coincidence with the vast 
majority ending in the same digits has me wondering if the servers 
are not related to eachother.
Yes, I have a world running but it is just for personal chat between 
family and doesn't get used very often.
There are regular bursts of transfers as seen by the packet graphing 
utility, so that leads me to believe it is simply AltME connecting... 
but it sure would be nice to know.
Graham
29-Sep-2006
[1818x2]
This is a rather annoying bug with 1.2.8 ... not sure if it were 
present before .. but if you have something in the clipboard, then 
right click no longer copies anything to the clipboard.
And worse .. it's intermittent!
Henrik
29-Sep-2006
[1820]
I see that too, but I thought it had something to do with Synergy, 
because I see it in other apps too.
Ingo
30-Sep-2006
[1821]
It works here, with and without synergy (if we mean the same program, 
the tcp/ip km switch to use the same mouse and keyboard for two computers).
WinXP
Anton
30-Sep-2006
[1822x2]
Yes, I've noticed something has changed there. (Probably should check 
the AltME changes log for a different behaviour.)
(Mm.. not much written in the changelog.)
PeterWood
8-Oct-2006
[1824]
I'm finding the AltME under LInux seems to sync much better than 
AltME under Windows. By checking the web public discussions at rebol.net, 
I found that  some topics hadn't synced. I dotted but no effect. 
So I switched to Linux  where AltME synced everything.
Graham
9-Oct-2006
[1825]
It may be that it was just a different installation that did it ..
Louis
12-Oct-2006
[1826x2]
Why is file share disabled in this world?
I would like to share a slideshow.
Henrik
12-Oct-2006
[1828]
I think it had something to do with that the world was created before 
filesharing was available
[unknown: 9]
12-Oct-2006
[1829]
No, just was not turned on here.
Louis
12-Oct-2006
[1830]
Any plan to turn file sharing on?
Will
12-Oct-2006
[1831]
is it rebol on os x or altme, pasting code into altme doesn't keep 
newlines and tabs, if it is an altme issue then a fix would be very 
welcome 8)
[unknown: 9]
12-Oct-2006
[1832]
Louis:  This is not my world, you would have to ask Carl.

Will, pasted from what?  That is the key.  Please look at the contents 
of your paste in a hex editor, and tell me if it has CR, LF, LF + 
CR,. or CR + LF.
Louis
12-Oct-2006
[1833]
Reichart, ok. Thanks for answering. By the way, I really like AltME.
[unknown: 9]
13-Oct-2006
[1834]
Thanks.   It is funny, where the lines of responsibility lay.
Will
13-Oct-2006
[1835]
Tried cr lf crlf, not sure if the clipboard get modified automagically, 
but can't paste with newline. Maybe some other os x user can check. 
No problem with tabs..
[unknown: 9]
13-Oct-2006
[1836x2]
I have a Mac, but today I'm away from it.
The source does matter, try writting a couple of lines with TextEdit, 
and also try copying and pasting from a website.
Will
13-Oct-2006
[1838]
Tried a variety of combination 8)
[unknown: 9]
13-Oct-2006
[1839]
So you are saying that all source lose line info?
Will
13-Oct-2006
[1840]
Yes, maybe someone can test
[unknown: 9]
13-Oct-2006
[1841]
I will test Monday.
JaimeVargas
13-Oct-2006
[1842]
I can confirm that this is the case, and it is very annoying.
Ashley
14-Oct-2006
[1843x2]
Problem can be easily demonstrated by copying the following three 
lines from TexEdit (Notepad like default text editor on Mac):

One
Two
Three
Interestingly enough, if I copy and paste the above "line" back into 
TextEdit then they appear as three seperate lines again.
Henrik
14-Oct-2006
[1845x5]
>> view layout [t: area]
(escape)
>> t/text
== "this is^Ma^Mtest"

Pasted from TextEdit
so it seems that VID doesn't handle that correctly. If I type the 
text in including ^M manually, I get the same result (line breaks 
are ignored)
>> t/text: rejoin ["this is" newline "a" newline "test"]   
== "this is^/a^/test"
>> show t

That works
For the record:
>> newline
== #"^/"
>> crlf
== "^M^/"
>> t/text
== "this is^/a^/test"

This is from Notepad in WindowsXP.
Allen
14-Oct-2006
[1850x2]
MS IM on Mac has same issue.
at least for cut & paste. Not so for manual
[unknown: 9]
15-Oct-2006
[1852]
Henrik, thank you for the research.    So, VID has it too?  And to 
confirm, you get different results on Windows and Mac?
Henrik
16-Oct-2006
[1853x2]
Only the last test above was done in Windows XP. The others were 
done in OSX.


When I paste from TextEdit in MacOSX into a VID textarea, ^M is pasted, 
and it doesn't work right. When I paste from Notepad in Windows into 
a VID textarea, ^/ is pasted and it works correctly. So the results 
are different, yes.


When I copy and paste from a VID textarea to TextEdit, it looks alright, 
but this might be due to how TextEdit handles different line ending 
chars the same. I can't see the line endings in TextEdit. When I 
save the TextEdit file to disk in Windows Latin 1 format and read 
it in REBOL, the line endings are correct.


When I copy and paste between two VID text areas in OSX, it looks 
alright.


OSX Rebol/View has also another bug in which, when using cursor up 
or down in a text area, the cursor also moves one char to the left.
when doing a 'read clipboard:// in OSX, I still get the ^M. so it 
might not be VID after all.
[unknown: 9]
16-Oct-2006
[1855]
Interesting, this is why I want to run lots of simple conclusive 
tests.  I don't want AltME to have separate routines for separate 
computers, I also don't want to both Carl unless we have our facts 
in order.
Henrik
16-Oct-2006
[1856]
I don't think this is an AltME problem, but a rebol/clipboard general 
problem. But I think that Mac Roman text formatting does use a different 
line ending and that comes through with the clipboard into rebol.
BrianH
16-Oct-2006
[1857]
I think the problem is that read without /binary is supposed to do 
transparent line ending conversion, but doesn't when reading clipboard 
data.
Louis
16-Oct-2006
[1858x2]
AltME updated to 1.2.9 with no problem.
What is new?
Brock
16-Oct-2006
[1860]
Apparently not much... http://www.altme.com/new.html
Louis
16-Oct-2006
[1861]
:>)  I was hoping that this new version could read my brain waves 
so I wouldn't have to type.
Henrik
18-Oct-2006
[1862x3]
another issue is how text encoding is done. I just had a conversation 
in Danish with Geomol. While Danish letters look right on a mac it 
will look different in Windows and vice versa.
¾¿Œ <--- on a mac
æøå <--- in winXP