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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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Brock 19-Sep-2006 [1815x3] | I agree with the starting part, but thought that they had servers located in more than one location. The coincidence with the vast majority ending in the same digits has me wondering if the servers are not related to eachother. |
Yes, I have a world running but it is just for personal chat between family and doesn't get used very often. | |
There are regular bursts of transfers as seen by the packet graphing utility, so that leads me to believe it is simply AltME connecting... but it sure would be nice to know. | |
Graham 29-Sep-2006 [1818x2] | This is a rather annoying bug with 1.2.8 ... not sure if it were present before .. but if you have something in the clipboard, then right click no longer copies anything to the clipboard. |
And worse .. it's intermittent! | |
Henrik 29-Sep-2006 [1820] | I see that too, but I thought it had something to do with Synergy, because I see it in other apps too. |
Ingo 30-Sep-2006 [1821] | It works here, with and without synergy (if we mean the same program, the tcp/ip km switch to use the same mouse and keyboard for two computers). WinXP |
Anton 30-Sep-2006 [1822x2] | Yes, I've noticed something has changed there. (Probably should check the AltME changes log for a different behaviour.) |
(Mm.. not much written in the changelog.) | |
PeterWood 8-Oct-2006 [1824] | I'm finding the AltME under LInux seems to sync much better than AltME under Windows. By checking the web public discussions at rebol.net, I found that some topics hadn't synced. I dotted but no effect. So I switched to Linux where AltME synced everything. |
Graham 9-Oct-2006 [1825] | It may be that it was just a different installation that did it .. |
Louis 12-Oct-2006 [1826x2] | Why is file share disabled in this world? |
I would like to share a slideshow. | |
Henrik 12-Oct-2006 [1828] | I think it had something to do with that the world was created before filesharing was available |
[unknown: 9] 12-Oct-2006 [1829] | No, just was not turned on here. |
Louis 12-Oct-2006 [1830] | Any plan to turn file sharing on? |
Will 12-Oct-2006 [1831] | is it rebol on os x or altme, pasting code into altme doesn't keep newlines and tabs, if it is an altme issue then a fix would be very welcome 8) |
[unknown: 9] 12-Oct-2006 [1832] | Louis: This is not my world, you would have to ask Carl. Will, pasted from what? That is the key. Please look at the contents of your paste in a hex editor, and tell me if it has CR, LF, LF + CR,. or CR + LF. |
Louis 12-Oct-2006 [1833] | Reichart, ok. Thanks for answering. By the way, I really like AltME. |
[unknown: 9] 13-Oct-2006 [1834] | Thanks. It is funny, where the lines of responsibility lay. |
Will 13-Oct-2006 [1835] | Tried cr lf crlf, not sure if the clipboard get modified automagically, but can't paste with newline. Maybe some other os x user can check. No problem with tabs.. |
[unknown: 9] 13-Oct-2006 [1836x2] | I have a Mac, but today I'm away from it. |
The source does matter, try writting a couple of lines with TextEdit, and also try copying and pasting from a website. | |
Will 13-Oct-2006 [1838] | Tried a variety of combination 8) |
[unknown: 9] 13-Oct-2006 [1839] | So you are saying that all source lose line info? |
Will 13-Oct-2006 [1840] | Yes, maybe someone can test |
[unknown: 9] 13-Oct-2006 [1841] | I will test Monday. |
JaimeVargas 13-Oct-2006 [1842] | I can confirm that this is the case, and it is very annoying. |
Ashley 14-Oct-2006 [1843x2] | Problem can be easily demonstrated by copying the following three lines from TexEdit (Notepad like default text editor on Mac): One Two Three |
Interestingly enough, if I copy and paste the above "line" back into TextEdit then they appear as three seperate lines again. | |
Henrik 14-Oct-2006 [1845x5] | >> view layout [t: area] (escape) >> t/text == "this is^Ma^Mtest" Pasted from TextEdit |
so it seems that VID doesn't handle that correctly. If I type the text in including ^M manually, I get the same result (line breaks are ignored) | |
>> t/text: rejoin ["this is" newline "a" newline "test"] == "this is^/a^/test" >> show t That works | |
For the record: >> newline == #"^/" >> crlf == "^M^/" | |
>> t/text == "this is^/a^/test" This is from Notepad in WindowsXP. | |
Allen 14-Oct-2006 [1850x2] | MS IM on Mac has same issue. |
at least for cut & paste. Not so for manual | |
[unknown: 9] 15-Oct-2006 [1852] | Henrik, thank you for the research. So, VID has it too? And to confirm, you get different results on Windows and Mac? |
Henrik 16-Oct-2006 [1853x2] | Only the last test above was done in Windows XP. The others were done in OSX. When I paste from TextEdit in MacOSX into a VID textarea, ^M is pasted, and it doesn't work right. When I paste from Notepad in Windows into a VID textarea, ^/ is pasted and it works correctly. So the results are different, yes. When I copy and paste from a VID textarea to TextEdit, it looks alright, but this might be due to how TextEdit handles different line ending chars the same. I can't see the line endings in TextEdit. When I save the TextEdit file to disk in Windows Latin 1 format and read it in REBOL, the line endings are correct. When I copy and paste between two VID text areas in OSX, it looks alright. OSX Rebol/View has also another bug in which, when using cursor up or down in a text area, the cursor also moves one char to the left. |
when doing a 'read clipboard:// in OSX, I still get the ^M. so it might not be VID after all. | |
[unknown: 9] 16-Oct-2006 [1855] | Interesting, this is why I want to run lots of simple conclusive tests. I don't want AltME to have separate routines for separate computers, I also don't want to both Carl unless we have our facts in order. |
Henrik 16-Oct-2006 [1856] | I don't think this is an AltME problem, but a rebol/clipboard general problem. But I think that Mac Roman text formatting does use a different line ending and that comes through with the clipboard into rebol. |
BrianH 16-Oct-2006 [1857] | I think the problem is that read without /binary is supposed to do transparent line ending conversion, but doesn't when reading clipboard data. |
Louis 16-Oct-2006 [1858x2] | AltME updated to 1.2.9 with no problem. |
What is new? | |
Brock 16-Oct-2006 [1860] | Apparently not much... http://www.altme.com/new.html |
Louis 16-Oct-2006 [1861] | :>) I was hoping that this new version could read my brain waves so I wouldn't have to type. |
Henrik 18-Oct-2006 [1862x3] | another issue is how text encoding is done. I just had a conversation in Danish with Geomol. While Danish letters look right on a mac it will look different in Windows and vice versa. |
¾¿Œ <--- on a mac | |
æøå <--- in winXP | |
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