World: r3wp

denismx: I have added "Launch  World on Start-up" to the AltME Wish 
List in the Checklists here. Please could you add a brief description.

denismx:  I'm not following very well.  Is your problem with the 
Debian server as I have this working for a family server hosted on 
a windows machine as I'm sure many people here do.  If you want to 
try again on a windows OS, place a shortcut in your startup folder. 
 In the target field the command should be similar to this...

physical path to altme

sorry

physical path to altme
 -s "WorldName" -p Port#

at one point I had three private worlds working this way.  Anytime 
the PC restarted the worlds were available.

i think the problem he has is that altme still needs X to be available

there is a "server only" altme, but it costs money.

I noticed a small but costly redraw issue (particularly when using 
AltME through remote desktop): When I am in this group and then click 
the checklist button and I then click on RebServices, AltME first 
redraws this group again and then draws the RebServices group. This 
takes 1-2 additional seconds to do.

I'm surprise "physical path to altme" -s "WorldName" -p Port# works 
for you on Windows, Brock. It did'nt for me - but it's been a very 
long time and I don't remember the details of that problem. I'm on 
Linux for my servers, Debian Sarge, now. Not going back.

What about the password, Brock? It's filled in automatically on your 
setup?

Well, well, I've just tried it under windows again, and it does seem 
to work, as Brock is saying. Didn't under some previous version I 
was running under. It just might work the same under Linux. Going 
there to try it. Will report back.

Well it now works under both windows and linux. Under linux you do 
a : "./altme -s Worldname" and it doen'nt even ask for the password 
! (?) - same for windows in fact. You can start any local world without 
the password from the command line.

So I'm wondering why the password is asked under the GUI?!

So I'll take this out of the wish list, PeterWood. Tks anyway.

:)

Yep, you only need passwords for starting the AltME user-client. 
 I believe the intent of the "Start a World" window is to create 
new worlds where you need a password for the world.  I don't see 
a need for a passord to start a world, you still need a client to 
communicate and access the data inside the world.

denismx: the password is saved when it is asked via the gui. so it's 
not asking you because you have set it already :)

Am I the only person getting chucked off Rebol3 today?

had 3 discos in the last couple of hours

no problems here

Must be my international links

Gabriele: is it because the password has been saved and is reused, 
or maybe that password asked when creating a world is jus the password 
for the "master" account?

In my mind, that would explain why it is asked and never used afterwards.

I remember vaguely that when I had tried starting a world with the 
-s paramater, Alteme was not picking up the worlds user list, like 
it was not started in the correct directory. Anyway. I'm glad to 
have this solution now. So I'm preparing to setup my linux server 
to come up with X and altme running on my world after a boot up.

Graham -- I've not seen such a problem today.

denis: the password is needed to be able to start a word with a given 
name. this is so someone else does not take up your name.

however, unless you "buy" the name, it is kept only for a few days 
or weeks (i don't remember how much time), so if that expires, the 
password is not needed/valid anymore, and the name is free.

My understanding is a world name is kept as long as you use it within 
ten days of your last connection.  However, I have had world names 
that I didn't pay for drop on the same day a world was used.  For 
example, I change between three world names when I loose the one 
I am currently using.  A pain for the users of course, which I assume 
would not happen if I would just spend the small amount to reserve 
the world name.  Otherwise, I'm sure this would be a pretty big topic 
for SafeWorlds.

: )

Wooo hooo, back on altme :-) Was anyone else experiencing difficulties 
connecting? Even rebol.net was down for me. Well, maybe so, as I 
am alone here :-)

I couldn't connect for almost all day here in Indonesia, Pekr.

hmm, so it was probably problem of some of RT's servers .....

same

And I was expecting a flood of messages!

Well, I naively thought, that maybe RT is preparing servers for unexpected 
R3 release, all new website, etc. Silly me :-)

almost a full day...

hehe

pekr, stop creating occasions for disapointment... its not good for 
your negativity  ;-)

:-)

the server just crashed (probably same problem as mail.rebol.net, 
but we don't know for sure yet)

Carl said it could have been some Fedora update that happened automatically

how does altME install an update over itself?

and how does it restart itself?

Why not just turn off automatic updates?

that's not the point. I'm making the same mechanism myself and was 
wondering how a running program can delete itself.

Huh?

It's a linux update ..not altme

uhm... I don't think we are talking about the same thing.

I'm talking about the Windows version of AltME. Whenever there is 
an update, it's capable of updating itself and restarting. I simply 
want to know how it does that, because I need that functionality 
in my own programs.