World: r3wp

Mmm, so to post a message here you would do this:

write altme://user:[pass-:-Rebol3]/!AltME/ "message"

Some more ideas:

write altme://user:[pass-:-Rebol3]/!AltME/ "message"

Resolved of the first url here to the second url
by the Rebol3 world (local distribution):

altme://user:[pass-:-Rebol3]/!AltME/239
is resolved to:
altme://user:[pass-:-Rebol3]/151/239

151 is the set-file number for the !AltME group, and
239 is the message id.

read altme://user:[pass-:-Rebol3]/!AltME
;== [set-number 151 first-available-message 1 last-message 242]


So it returns some group info, not the content of all the messages 
!

To get a message:

read altme://user:[pass-:-Rebol3]/!AltME/239

;== [(date) 9 (colour) [font [fg 0.0.0 bg 240.240.240]] "We are working 
towards that."]

To find a user name by the set-number:

read altme://user:[pass-:-Rebol3]/9

;== ["Reichart" [reichart-:-safeworlds-:-com] (membership) (dates etc..)]

can be a disaster, if someone gets password and will script and flood 
channel :-)

Well, write does not have to be implemented. But we will cross the 
security bridge when we get to it.

If a bad guy discovers the guest/guest logon they can delete every 
group.
Security is not one of Altme's core qualities.

I would say it is an intended quality.

Whether that or not, it creates a problem of scalability.

If 1 in 100 of people who find the guest details are bad guys, then 
any public world has an easily estimated probably lifetime.


(The fact that worlds have been destroyed by hardware failure before 
the bad guys arrived doesn't invalidate that argument -- just highlights 
another security/scalability issue).


And I'm not suggesting that 1/100 of Internet users are bad guys 
-- the bad guys might work harder at finding things to damage than 
the good guys.

I still argue the hardware failure has nothing to do wtih AltME. 
 Since a double blind test shows all software fails this same test.

As to security, that is easy, don't have a guest account.


This "world" is like a Hostel.  People come and go, and if someone 
wants to come in and burn the books one night, they can.


There is no level of security that will stop this.  If I get your 
right password I can destroy your credit rating, blah blah blah.

None of this has anything to do with AltME.


However, we could add more locks to more doors, and that is a different 
issue.  We would thus be changing the philosophy here, which I'm 
open to, but it still needs to be clear this is a different issue 
than is be ascribed to AltME.

just adding moderated groups solves the issue.

you can have guest accounts but they'll never kill any moderated 
group.

moderator would have a short list of things people can do with a 
group.

post, delete, read with each of these being 100% use private list, 
moderator only, others.  so you could have a list which is readable 
by all, postable only by private memembers and deletable only by 
the moderator.

maybe add moderated removal of specific posts...   :-)

also, moderator, should be a list of users, not just one person.

hum before on rebol 2 we have the counting of registred users must 
i need to do something to enable it again or it must be done by the 
world admin ?

special settings -> show user totals

thank you ;)

Altme ties in to the X clipboard rather than the Gnome/KDE clipboard., 
which leads to some embarrassment for quick pasters like me. I managed 
to paste the wrong link in the Links topic twice because I just assumed 
that C-v would paste whatever was in the clipboard.

I forgot that there are a couple of clipboards in X :-/

Yeah, this happens to me too sometimes.  Although I use Word a clipboard 
(spell checking).  Sometimes I grab EVERYTHING and just paste somehere. 
 I have had to get in the habit of NOT hitting send anywhere (not 
just here, but o the web as a whole).

*pfft* ... that would require me *thinking* ;-)

Yeah..........me too!

Pretty much nothing pisses me off mor than having to think.

open your prefs.txt file and set:
sound-new-message: %wavefile.wav
It must be a simple wav format, not a compressed format.

for that want, this is how to change the sound in AltME.

There is a great webUI book called "Don't Make Me Think!" ... actually 
the title is probably better than the book, the contents are getting 
a little dated

Hey, this may be something for you clipboarders ...

autocutsel

Synchronise the two copy/paste buffers mainly used by X applications
http://www.lepton.fr/tools/autocutsel/

Any easy way of limiting "Guest" posts to the Accounts group [only]?

Yeah, it is on the list, I call it the Knock Knock feature.  The 
way it works is people can actually sign up before even getting into 
AltME from a website if they want.

Reichart, this list you speak of must be huge by now?

I believe Altme is being rewritten ground up...

so, it might be a couple of years before the next release

Not years.  Yes, List is big, but at least it is getting attacked 
every day.

possibly also some kind of barrier to avoid replying to announcements 
in the announce group

Reichart -- glad to hear Altme is being actively worked on.  I'd 
got the impression from an earlier message of yours (on REBOL2, maybe) 
that Altme was what we used to call "functionally stabilised" (ie 
dead as a development)

Now about some interim releases? Create a sense of progress and momentum.

Actually quite the opposite.

AltME is being rebuilt form the ground up (which is why we don't 
try to fix every little thing on the current version).


We are building it to allow for the integration of applets, and a 
core messaging system to make it more compatible with external applications 
(for example).

Glad to hear that too!

I can state that the the team is in fact working day and night on 
this.  We just don't make a lot of noise when we are working.

Like a Rolls Royce!?

Exactly.

Is there a way for me to make the user column wider by one letter 
...so that the "s" at the end of my name is not orphaned to the next 
line?

not yet, but it will be in the near future.

in the meantime, you could shorten your name :)

Yeah.

I bags "G" :)

Change now or for ever be "grumpy"

You could reduce the name column size and give more space for chatting

Can I do that change myself?

No, I think only R can do that ..