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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

Pekr
21-Dec-2007
[2691x2]
Reichart - ego or not, I am more than experienced user, if not more, 
or I would not be where I am. (Well, otoh even chief of IT could 
be moron, so maybe you are right :-)
Edgaer pointed me two times to the same link. Reading thru all the 
 text twice, it does not answer any question. The link rather stupidly 
suggests to users, that you have to be admin etc etc. and more or 
less describes, how to change default program. Did that, xy times. 
Did that for each one possible file suffix. Once again - file system 
worked all fine, it is just AltME, having problems.
Reichart
21-Dec-2007
[2693]
I'll correct for the future...
Pekr
21-Dec-2007
[2694x4]
Actually, what I found out, was not user's error at all ...
The part I am not good at I admitted - the possible cause being Active 
Directory policy, which could override even my admin local settings, 
if I am connected to domain.
And that is where I am easily able to correct myself ... we have 
xy users with Vista already here, noone having the same problem ....
I can write down the case and provide it as a FAQ entry ... but if 
it does not affect any other user, it might be worthless ...
Sunanda
26-Dec-2007
[2698]
There is no simple, obvious, method of joining this world....

....If you discover it via the REBOL.net archive, there is no info 
at all about joining
http://www.rebol.net/altweb/rebol3/


....If you find it via the REBOL.org archive, there is a note in 
the Help page about requesting membership via the Mailing List.....So 
first, you got to join the ML and it has to be working that day :-(

Let's come up with something better guys!


My opening suggestion.....membership can be requested by sending 
an email to a specific gmail account that the Admins here monitor.
Henrik
26-Dec-2007
[2699]
well, I'll write a blog entry about it
Reichart
26-Dec-2007
[2700]
Given the trouble with the Mailing list as well (feedback), what 
about simply moving everything over to Gmail Groups?  All these problems 
have been solved by them already.  It has IMAP access, so you can 
still do ML archives.  And it is all free.  There are a few things 
about Gmail Groups I don't like (but I suspect all ML have the same 
problems), I simply don't like Email in the first place, so I'm biased.

I think a big move to Gmail would have many positive aspects:


-	Feedback problem is gone, since you can have multiple moderators 
that can check.
-	We have a centralized location for requests to AltME

-	We can make it public already, so you may be able to avoid some 
of the tools you have been using to do this.

-	We are working "with" other systems, as opposed to "invented here"

-	There are other services Gmail offers that might enhance the experience.
Gregg
26-Dec-2007
[2701]
There is a REBOL Google group, but it doesn't see much use: http://groups.google.com/group/rebol
BrianH
26-Dec-2007
[2702]
I've been noticing AltMe freezing when retrieving a message - when 
done, it goes back to normal. Is this a network latency or speed 
problem, or something else?
Reichart
26-Dec-2007
[2703x2]
Perhaps it does not see much use because we are fractured.  If we 
all jumped on one, we would become focuses?
Freezing...hmmm. Don't know.  I don't see this (much)
Sunanda
26-Dec-2007
[2705]
I see it quite often, Brian.
Reichart
26-Dec-2007
[2706x2]
Please send to Feedback.
focused
Graham
26-Dec-2007
[2708x2]
I never see it.
Still see the password bug occasionally though.
BrianH
26-Dec-2007
[2710]
Perhaps your internet connection is better than mine, Graham. I usually 
use AltMe from other people's internet connections.
Graham
26-Dec-2007
[2711x2]
OPI
I"m supposed to have a 10mbs connection
BrianH
26-Dec-2007
[2713x2]
It seems to me that the process of retrieving a message is blocking, 
or otherwise synchronous. On a crappy connection that process may 
have to do some retransmits, or may be slowed down for other reasons. 
The solution is to make the retrieval of a message asynchronous, 
and then just sync during the local update once the message is retrieved.
It happens more often when I have more than one world up.
Graham
26-Dec-2007
[2715x2]
I think it must be blocking as when I'm typing and a message is being 
downloaded, I have always noticed that keyboard input is slower.
The synapse chat client was completely async as it used Beer.
Henrik
27-Dec-2007
[2717]
Before I make an ass of myself on my blog for the umpteenth time: 
Who can new people contact to sign up for AltME?
Gregg
27-Dec-2007
[2718x2]
I'm a world master here. Might be good to have another one who is 
around a lot though. Reichart is back, and he usually takes care 
of things pretty quickly when he's around.
Just don't get me harvested. :-)
Reichart
27-Dec-2007
[2720]
Yes, I serve as back up for Gregg.


Henrik, if you are asking "who can people contact" as in send an 
Email, I don't know...  this is why I want  to unify the REBOL ML 
on Google Groups.  Then someone can post in the ML, and anyone who 
happens to see it can post it here.


The option is the way we do it now, which is if someone contacts 
anyone already in here, they tell us in Accounts, and we create an 
account because that person is vouching for them.

Does that answer your question?
Henrik
27-Dec-2007
[2721]
Reichart, I guess it does. I just wanted to make a small guide on 
my blog to how to get in here as quickly and as painlessly as possible 
and who is reliable to contact about that. Currently the ML seems 
to be the main way in, while other post on reboltalk.com.
Reichart
27-Dec-2007
[2722x2]
See.........now as scary as this might seem, I did not even know 
about RebolTalk.com!
In fact, this exchange should be on the front page of RebolTalk.com 
: )


http://www.reboltalk.com/forum/index.php/topic,278.msg937.html#msg937
Henrik
28-Dec-2007
[2724x2]
amazing
more reason for my blog post, I guess
Anton
30-Dec-2007
[2726]
I propose: checklists to appear in the same list as users and groups. 
Then they can be sorted by most recently modified, turn red and be 
noticed.  *Then* the "Links" group could become a checklist, avoiding 
chat.

or


The "Links" group could be automatically scraped and the links put 
into a "Links" checklist.
BrianH
3-Jan-2008
[2727]
When you post an alert to a private group, does it go to all members 
of the world or just that group?
Reichart
3-Jan-2008
[2728]
Group.
Chris
8-Jan-2008
[2729]
Suggestion: ctrl-click on a message equivalent to right-click.  For 
one-button 'mouse' users (ie. Mac)
Ammon
16-Jan-2008
[2730]
Last night, for the second time...  When I connected to Altme Reichart's 
name was "none" his color was correct though.  


The first time this happened it was on a different computer and Reichart 
remained "none" for the duration of the install so I had to reinstall. 
 


Altme seems to have corrected itself somehow this time.  Reichart, 
you will be pleased to know that you are no longer "none"
Reichart
17-Jan-2008
[2731]
: )
Ammon
17-Jan-2008
[2732]
Reichart, I lied.  You're only not "none" in some cases like in this 
group for example, however in the Video Tutorials group all of your 
posts show as being posted by "none"  Someone else in that group 
is also showing as "none"  I'll give you more info on this when I 
get a chance.
Henrik
17-Jan-2008
[2733]
ammon, can you see Terry?
Ammon
17-Jan-2008
[2734]
Where?
Henrik
17-Jan-2008
[2735]
if you can't see him, he's probably the one who is none
Ammon
17-Jan-2008
[2736]
I don't see Terry in the Video Tutorials group...
Reichart
18-Jan-2008
[2737]
This is not a bug...simply, I left this world, and rejoined...
Ammon
19-Jan-2008
[2738]
Ah... That would explain it.  Thanks.
Graham
24-Jan-2008
[2739]
Altme runs under wine 0.9.28 ??
Gabriele
24-Jan-2008
[2740]
i'm on 0.9.53... but i assume it does