World: r3wp
[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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Pekr 5-Apr-2008 [2878x2] | Thanks eventually and sorry, if I miss some important steps, but I tried to follow docs, which should be sufficient enough me thinks :-) |
in 5) lack = luck | |
Brock 5-Apr-2008 [2880x4] | Pekr, my limited experience with multiple altME worlds is you need to have the other worlds you are hosting running at the same time you create your new world. It will assigne the next available port to that world. |
I had lots of problems with this in the past as well as I was trying to setup some test worlds to hook some people. I created the worlds consecutively with no other worlds running and ran into the same problem of them all being associate with 5400. | |
I also had problems with worlds that were not 'reserved' running on theh same Win98 machine. I had frequent drops of the worlds... the world server thought people hadn't been on the worlds in 90 days so the server released the name. This happened really frequently, even though the worlds in question were accessed every day or every couple of days. | |
I finally gave up and resolved myself to only host one world. Seems to have remedied the problem, although I still have occasional world name drops. The other problem I had is it would not allow me to connect to my world, and when 'restarting' the world, it would say my world name is in use, thus forcing me to change my world-name and asking my users to do the same when trying to connect. Luckily it was just for family, so they did it without complaining. | |
Gregg 5-Apr-2008 [2884] | Same issues here. |
Graham 5-Apr-2008 [2885x2] | I've been defeated .. I've changed all my passwords to be the same :( |
Just been locked out too many times with the wrong password. | |
Edgar 7-Apr-2008 [2887] | Something weird corrupted my AltME login to this world. I had to delete the file "state" and let AltMe recreate it. This happened right after the new AltME update. Before I deleted it, it was logging me in but keeps giving me an internal error about state path being none while I am already logged in. I sent the error to feedsback 3 times. Deleting the "state" file fixed it for me. |
Pekr 7-Apr-2008 [2888] | Brock - the only one thing is needed to those experienced - one field for manual port assignation. If you are admin, you have to know what the port means anyway, as you have DST nat connection on your router .... |
Brock 7-Apr-2008 [2889] | Yes, I agree that is needed. I'd also like to see a way to re-assign a world name after it is dropped and no longer 'reserved' or associated to my IP, but don't know if this is possible, since it seems to have lost my IP... maybe this is an ISP thing when IS recycles IPs since I have a Dynamic IP... probably the answer. |
Pekr 7-Apr-2008 [2890] | I think, that AltME would greatly benefit from DevBase model. DevBase is live demostration of community collaborative work. If AltME client (not necessarily server) sources would be uploaded, we could see good bunch of small refinements, fixed proxy, etc. |
Oldes 7-Apr-2008 [2891] | Is it possible to change associations? For example if I don't want Altme to use Notepad? |
Pekr 7-Apr-2008 [2892] | I think it is built-in. I have not found it exposed in any config .... |
Sunanda 7-Apr-2008 [2893] | Ingo <I'm not talking about these 3 lines for this exact problem, but about understanding enough to find the same info for another post> Apologies for delay in replying. *** The URL for the web archive has this parameter for the post in question: post=r3wp157x10054 And the two lines of code are: core-chat: reduce load/all %157.set text: last core-chat/10055 As you can see, the GROUP-ID is 157 and the POST-ID is 10054 -- but add 1 for the REBOL code as the file has a header line. *** To get the GROUP-ID either RIGHT-CLICK the group name in ALTME. Or find the group name in the Web archive: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/aga-groups-index.r?world=r3wp Does that demystify it? As Reichart implies -- it's easy when you know how :-) |
Henrik 15-Apr-2008 [2894x3] | What exactly can cause "AltME Error: Registray cannot load dataset files: 2" during startup? I'm getting it so many times on various machines, I'm starting to think it's a bug in AltME rather than data file corruption by something else. Whenever it happens when I'm trying to log into a specific world, it's "jinxed" and I can't log into it anymore on that machine. It does not help to just delete the whole dir, redownload AltME and start from scratch. |
it seems also to happen mostly when changing world from one to the other. I haven't been able to run multiple AltMEs on one machine for a long time. | |
it's mainly a problem on OSX Leopard, but I see it elsewhere too. | |
Anton 15-Apr-2008 [2897x3] | Can you trap the registry accesses ? |
Ah... sorry, it's AltME's registry, not Windows' | |
Maybe it's a permissions problem ? | |
Henrik 15-Apr-2008 [2900x2] | I was wondering that. However I don't know what could be permission denied, if I simply delete the entire AltME dir and reinstall it from scratch and the problem still persists. |
found it. it's a WHAT-DIR issue. | |
james_nak 26-Apr-2008 [2902] | Anyone ever seen a "Too Many Recent Servers" error when attempting to start a world? And is the limit 5 or 3 worlds running on a single PC? |
Sunanda 27-Apr-2008 [2903] | Altme has always struggled to show me the latest messages in some groups...That's the reason why some people have used "." a lot to force a group-specific resync. I've just noticed some red groups that have updated themselves for post in March this year and December last year. I guess that's good that they arrived without further prodding from me. But apologies if you're still awaiting some replies from me: I may never have seen yiur post. |
Brock 27-Apr-2008 [2904] | I havne't seen it, but I recall the available server ports on one machine to be 5400 and believe it to only go to 5405, but could be wrong. |
james_nak 27-Apr-2008 [2905] | Brock, yes that's what I thought. I'm wondering if the problem is that I requested "Too many Servers" from the Altme world-creator itself. I'm talking about starting worlds that I have consistently used for years and one more (to make four) that is new. You've given me another thought though, maybe my own machine is causing this to happen(?) At this point I can only run two of the three existing worlds and never the newest one. Hmmm. |
Brock 27-Apr-2008 [2906] | Make sure all worlds are open when you create a new one, otherwise it won't use a new port number. It always goes to port 5400 if it's not already serving another world. |
Gregg 27-Apr-2008 [2907] | Brock, do you know if the port is stored with the lookup server? That is, once created, will that world always serve on the alternate port, even if it's the only world running? |
Pekr 27-Apr-2008 [2908x2] | yes, the port is stored with the lookup server |
It is also placed in your config files on local machine - however, no matter how you try, if you registered new world without old ones running, altme registers it to existing port and then you will face strange situation, when your client is choosing to new world, but is connected to another one ... | |
Brock 27-Apr-2008 [2910] | Pekr is correct from my experience. |
Gregg 28-Apr-2008 [2911] | Thanks guys! That's very helpful information. |
james_nak 28-Apr-2008 [2912] | Yeah, it is. That's probably why it doesn't work. And worse, now one of my old worlds can't be started. I guess I'll have to wait until the others die. |
xavier 28-Apr-2008 [2913x2] | hi everybody ... i met some problems with altme : problems with a dataset file |
anybody got the same annoyment ? | |
Sunanda 28-Apr-2008 [2915] | I've seen various annoyances. Can you describe yours in more detail? |
Gregg 2-May-2008 [2916] | I think I found the trick to serving multiple worlds, even if they weren't set up correctly at first. In the info file in %altme/servers/<your-world>/, change 5400 to, e.g., 5401. When you start the world again, it seems to use that port. I haven't tried it with a shortcut start yet. |
Brock 2-May-2008 [2917x3] | I believe the file is config.txt in Windows. There is a server-port option. |
sorry... host-addr. Good find Gregg. | |
Let me start over... host-port is what Gregg is talking about. There is also a host-addr setting that might be the source of my worlds becoming unavailable all of a sudden even though they are used on a daily basis. I'll have to check that out next time my world locks me out. | |
james_nak 2-May-2008 [2920] | Thanks. I waited a couple of days an now it is fine (4 worlds running). Since I didn't do anything on my side I'm wondering if the Altme server has something to do with it. Who knows? I'm just glad it works now : ) |
Louis 23-May-2008 [2921] | Does copy and paste not work on AltME running under Linux? |
Izkata 24-May-2008 [2922] | It works in the input box, but as far as I can tell, nowhere else. So we can't copy/paste code that somene else posted |
PeterWood 24-May-2008 [2923x2] | Double-clicking on a link doesn't open a webapge in your browser either....and you can't even copy the URL to paste it in the browser. |
I suspect that quite a few of the AltME Linux users run the Windows version using WINE | |
Louis 24-May-2008 [2925] | Hummm. I'll try it under wine to see how it works out. Thanks. |
Anton 24-May-2008 [2926x2] | yes, wine. |
Command: wine altme.exe -w rebol3 | |
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