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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

ICarii
14-Jul-2008
[2973x5]
to be honest - im still trying to think of a simple, logical replacement 
for the mixing.. its a tough one
the challenge with private messages is the thread integrity
also - private messages currently do not store a conversation as 
a unit - but rather as a history - this could be place too look for 
ideas
ive always seen altme as a merge between email and forums - or IRC 
with history
perhaps adding threading to groups / private messages would fulfil 
the conversational role
Pekr
14-Jul-2008
[2978]
World name server outage - now the name server does not resolve my 
server. How can I easily fix it? Just to reregister?
Brock
14-Jul-2008
[2979]
Pekr, do you know if it was running under port 5400 or not?  Was 
it your ownly world you had running?  If so, you should be able to 
register the same name and all will be well again.  This happens 
to me many times per year.  It's more complicated if you have more 
servers as you have to re-create them in the order of the port they 
were using.
Pekr
14-Jul-2008
[2980x3]
ok, risked it, and re-registered - yes, it was on port 5400. I was 
worried, as I renamed Master account, but all what was needed was 
to shut-it down, start altme, start reregistering the world, and 
I am done ....
I wonder how Altme.com can loose worldnames?
Brock - I wonder if following trick would work - imo Altme checks 
for already running worlds. So - if you know what port you need, 
you simply open REBOL console and open particular ports. E.g. you 
know that you world Test was running at 5402, so you can open tcp://:5400, 
open tcp://:5401, then there is a chance altme would run it on 5402 
as needed ...
Brock
14-Jul-2008
[2983x2]
I would think it would work, probably only looking to see if a port 
is available.
I believe if you don't pay for your world to be registered to you 
that it is not in there records and is prone to being lost.  I for 
one choose 'Risk it' if my world name is closed due to inactivity. 
 My problem has been that I have never had this world inactive for 
more than a couple of days, yet it is inactivated atleast a couple 
of times a year.
Pekr
15-Jul-2008
[2985]
I don't agree. Why should it be lost? Imo there is a bug somewhere. 
It seems like in-memory-only database or what? I can understand time-out 
of the world, if not used for some time. But not loosing world name, 
when the world is apparently running. That simply can't be regarded 
being a solid service ....
Brock
15-Jul-2008
[2986]
I don't agree either, just stating a fact.  It's happened to me fairly 
regularly but I'm told there isn't a problem.
Robert
16-Jul-2008
[2987x2]
Has anybody done some stress test of an AltME server concerning large 
files?
I'm interested to see how it scales.
Graham
17-Jul-2008
[2989x2]
A big bug with Altme is that someone else has to opt you out of a 
public channel
You can't do it yourself.
Henrik
17-Jul-2008
[2991x2]
Perhaps it would be simpler to allow channels to be invisible in 
the sidebar. This could be turned on or off in group information. 
Then there should be an option in the Divider options (bad name for 
this option, btw.) to display all or just visible groups.
Then you wouldn't accidentally opt yourself out of a group and not 
be able to get back in again.
ICarii
17-Jul-2008
[2993]
thankyou for the opt out graham :)
Sunanda
17-Jul-2008
[2994]
And an opposite problem exists.

Anyone new joining has no way to even know what private groups exist, 
so they have no way of telling if they should request membership.

So if a group has been made private simply so a few current members 
can opt out of it (it has happened) that has the side-effect of hiding 
the group from all future members.
Graham
17-Jul-2008
[2995]
ICarii will take this information so he can build a better GUI :)
Henrik
17-Jul-2008
[2996]
Sunanda, then there should probably be an option to show or hide 
private groups. I see the advantage for a private world owner to 
have several private groups he shares with different users. They 
then can't see eachother's groups, perhaps for business reasons. 
I used this once to talk to several different customers in the same 
world (until they appearently grew tired of AltME, sigh).
Sunanda
17-Jul-2008
[2997]
Henrik -- I agree. The current method is not flexible enough to handle 
all the common cases.
Henrik
28-Jul-2008
[2998]
I think I figured out a problem with my registry.set file. It goes 
read-only sometimes after an AltME crash, which makes AltME impossible 
to start. I wonder what causes that. (I think there are multiple 
different causes why AltME suddenly won't start).
Louis
5-Aug-2008
[2999]
I've been using Emacs for several months now, and like it alot. I 
wish I would have switched to Emacs years ago. There is one problem, 
however. Without even thinking about it I hit Cnt-x Cnt-s to save. 
That deletes the message I've been preparing to send in AltME.  But 
I just realized I can hit Cnt-v and get it all back.
Henrik
5-Aug-2008
[3000]
Louis, we had a discussion about Ctrl-X clearing the field a while 
back for VID3. So far I managed to keep it out and I hope it stays 
out. :-) Not good usability, IMHO.
Graham
5-Aug-2008
[3001]
Control C & V being so close to each other is also a problem me thinks
Reichart
5-Aug-2008
[3002x3]
I think the answer to shortcuts is that it should NOT be part of 
the application, but rather the OS.  That the App should offer a 
"suggestion" list to the App/
Thus, you can bring up a standard program on the OS, and simply say 
AltME/input field "Cut" = Control + X
If apps passed this up to OSes, then a person can bring thier shortcuts 
to any computer, or any computer connected to the web.
Oldes
6-Aug-2008
[3005]
There could be also a way how to redefine shortcuts as it's for example 
in Total Commander.
Oldes
8-Aug-2008
[3006]
I wonder when the password bug will be fixed in Altme:/
Graham
8-Aug-2008
[3007x2]
the default fix is to use the same password for each account.
This looks like a bug.  Select a world which is offline .. eg. r2-beta, 
and after it can't connect, click on "return to world".  It quits 
instead.
[unknown: 5]
11-Aug-2008
[3009]
I need to get ALTME working behind a firewall - what ports do I need 
to allow traffic thru?
Sunanda
11-Aug-2008
[3010]
Is the FAQ accurate on the issue of firewalls?
http://www.altme.com/faq.html#4750456
[unknown: 5]
16-Aug-2008
[3011x2]
Yeah I got it running. Thanks Sunanda.
Anyone got ATLME so that it is automated to start when Windows starts?
Henrik
16-Aug-2008
[3013]
can't that be done by putting it in the Startup folder in the start 
menu?
[unknown: 5]
16-Aug-2008
[3014]
Would the credentials have to entered for the world?
Henrik
16-Aug-2008
[3015]
you can autologin into the last world that was used
[unknown: 5]
16-Aug-2008
[3016x5]
True - that should work.
Also, if I get this going maybe I can host worlds for others for 
less money than ALTME.com charges.
Have to look at their licensing to see if that infringes.
I would suppose that it would be in the interest of ALTME for others 
to offer hosting services since the ultimately benefit.
Anyone know a way around the file size limitation in ALTME?  i tried 
to upload a large file and got a message that there was a limitation 
in this version of ALTME.
Pekr
16-Aug-2008
[3021]
There is a prototype AltME version on r3-alpha world, which allows 
larger uploads ...
[unknown: 5]
16-Aug-2008
[3022]
Can I get a link to it as I don't think I have access to R3-alpha 
world.