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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

Henrik
16-Aug-2008
[3013]
can't that be done by putting it in the Startup folder in the start 
menu?
[unknown: 5]
16-Aug-2008
[3014]
Would the credentials have to entered for the world?
Henrik
16-Aug-2008
[3015]
you can autologin into the last world that was used
[unknown: 5]
16-Aug-2008
[3016x5]
True - that should work.
Also, if I get this going maybe I can host worlds for others for 
less money than ALTME.com charges.
Have to look at their licensing to see if that infringes.
I would suppose that it would be in the interest of ALTME for others 
to offer hosting services since the ultimately benefit.
Anyone know a way around the file size limitation in ALTME?  i tried 
to upload a large file and got a message that there was a limitation 
in this version of ALTME.
Pekr
16-Aug-2008
[3021]
There is a prototype AltME version on r3-alpha world, which allows 
larger uploads ...
[unknown: 5]
16-Aug-2008
[3022]
Can I get a link to it as I don't think I have access to R3-alpha 
world.
Brock
17-Aug-2008
[3023]
I believe the file size is configurable by the world owner isn't 
it?
[unknown: 5]
18-Aug-2008
[3024]
I haven't seen any setting where I can change the size.
Alan
14-Sep-2008
[3025]
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Edgar
18-Sep-2008
[3026]
Something really weird happened to my AltMe instalations. 

Rebol3 and R3-Alpha opened as if it was the first time. It is downloading 
every messages again. Does anybody know what could cause this?
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[3027x2]
what OS?
Is your hard drive okay?
Edgar
19-Sep-2008
[3029]
Hard drive is fine.
OS is XP.
R2-beta world did not do the reload all.
Gregg
19-Sep-2008
[3030]
Starting from shortcuts? Or has anything changed that could point 
them to a new working dir?
Edgar
19-Sep-2008
[3031]
Starting from shortcuts. No new changes.
Gregg
19-Sep-2008
[3032x5]
If you go to files and browse to upload, is the base dir the same 
as it always has been?
I think I've seen this, but can't remember the details.
The upside is that the way AltMe works, the only thing you lose is 
a little bandwidth for a while. :-)
Also, there was an outage that may have caused something odd if you 
were on. I don't know any internals, but some state could have been 
mucked up with the lookup server being down I suppose.
Nothing strange here though.
Edgar
19-Sep-2008
[3037]
Yes, I did hear problems with other people connecting to ALtme.
The base of the files are in the same places.
Gregg
19-Sep-2008
[3038]
No fresh ideas here then.
Edgar
19-Sep-2008
[3039]
There was something good about this, I noticed that it also refreshed 
a few groups that were not refreshing before. Just a few of them.
Gregg
19-Sep-2008
[3040]
There you go. A silver lining. :-)
Reichart
20-Sep-2008
[3041]
The next time one of you think that you are not seeing updates in 
group, instead of posting a ".", please try something for me to see 
if this works.  Just change yoru max message setting, say from "100" 
to "500" or even "1,000".  I just noticed something that might explain 
this bug....
Graham
20-Sep-2008
[3042]
I've never seen this bug :)
Reichart
20-Sep-2008
[3043]
Cool, but others do, which is why they post a "."  Perhaps we can 
lock in on how to reproduce it.
Graham
20-Sep-2008
[3044]
Or, we can ban them ...
Reichart
20-Sep-2008
[3045]
Well, I'll do my best to help them first...
Pekr
23-Oct-2008
[3046x2]
Today one of our worlds lost its name registration, even if yesterday 
I was there. Shouldn't it keep the world name reserved for 10 days? 
:-)
so we recreated the world, and the good thing is, that it mapped 
correctly onto existing user and group settings.
Brock
23-Oct-2008
[3048]
This used to happen to me on a very regular basis when I was running 
more than one world.  Seems to have stabilized for me now though. 
 IIf you are running multiple worlds, you will only be able to get 
it registered to the proper port if you re-register the world while 
the other ports are in use..   For example if your world was sitting 
on the third port that gets assigned, you would need to have your 
first and second worlds running when you re-register, otherwise it 
will re-register you to the first port and you'll be hand-cuffed.
Pekr
23-Oct-2008
[3049]
no other world is running on the same physical hardware. But it already 
happened in the past. Simply put - 10 days timeout is not correct.
Ashley
23-Oct-2008
[3050]
Would you prefer ads?
Gregg
23-Oct-2008
[3051]
Or just pay for it.
Pekr
23-Oct-2008
[3052]
that is not about paying or not, that is about apparent bug of the 
system ....
Reichart
23-Oct-2008
[3053]
It is an illusive bug.  There seems to be an odd set of circumstances 
that cause it.  It is logged though.
Pekr
24-Oct-2008
[3054]
One thing is clear - our world was not available, wifi node was down. 
So at that time, there might be some check, and the rest depends 
on engine at Safeworlds. It is just that upon the description, the 
world name should be reserved for 10 days, while it was not even 
24 hours. But it was not a problem to renew. We just re-registered 
the world, and it mapped to the data of our world, without any problem 
...
Reichart
24-Oct-2008
[3055]
We are not questioning it should be what it says "10 days"

We are trying to figure out why it times out even though you used 
it in the 10 day window.
Pekr
24-Oct-2008
[3056]
Reichart - what kind of database is used at the back end? When I 
log to my world, what happens there? Is it logged back to DB? Or 
is it just in-memory database?
Reichart
24-Oct-2008
[3057]
I really don't want to explain "how" things work... nor try to debug 
any product with customers.  However, all information you have about 
what was happening when you tried to log in is helpful...


There is a tendancy for doctors to act as doctors, even when they 
are the patient.
james_nak
24-Oct-2008
[3058x3]
Reichart, I was curious as to what kind of development is going on 
with Altme. Isn't it pretty much what it is?
That is, it is what it is?
Or is it like the Amiga which never dies : -)
Pekr
24-Oct-2008
[3061]
So you don't want to debug with customers, yet you expect information? 
:-) Well, everything was said already. Our world was not available 
for something like 24 hours or less. When I was trying to connect 
to the world, I got message "the world does not exist". Then I checked 
via altme.com/check.html, and the site confirmed the name is available, 
hence expired. I guess I can't do more on my side ....
Reichart
24-Oct-2008
[3062]
Yes, it is not a two way street.  

I appreciate all you have stated...

James, there is more being done with AltME...