World: r3wp

Interesting. I could access and post to Rebdev Chat.

rebdev chat is on a different server

question, does AltME serving on 'nix require some level of graphica 
user interface running?  If so, what?

Interesting thing about FaceBook.  I know someone (name private to 
keep the innocent from Big Brothers) who uses FaceBook and was forced 
by the policy of their employer to not let a friend join (who was 
fired) their facebook because the employer could peruse the person's 
facebook, and is doing so, and it is part of that employer's employee 
handbook.


That is scary.  It validates the IOS/AltME way of better privacy, 
in my mind.

I would think this will kill facebook.

only if people cares about it. the popularity of facebook here is... 
absurd.

How long will Facebook last? What will replace it?

I think like Carl's essay on the trouble with email, AltME could 
do a more strategic but pointed talk about Safeworlds fixes the problem 
with Facebook.

(of course people still use email, but email is quite different from 
the spillage of info from facebook.  email is more private than facebook

I just wanted to express this Ahha moment I had today, from a discussio 
with this person.

Who is responsible for the Altme? I want sources so I can fix the 
really stupid link bug!

I would guess Carl programmed it.

I think Carl has taken it over but didn't do it originally.

Based on this post, it may still be Reichart:

  http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?offset=-1&post=r3wp151x458

Carl was doing the lastest builds.

I have heard AltME is now RT's responsibility ...

Correct, Carl is your man.

which means fixes won't be a priority

This is why I keep asking you guys to post in Feedback, because that 
is automated, ensures everything is captured, and although updates 
comes slowly, he does do them in the order there.

that url bug has been there since inception

Oldes, you can't have the sources!!!

Report for those that are trying to run more than 2 world servers 
on one machine - we were unable to register second world, even if 
the first one was running, and hence TCP port 5400 was occupied. 
Last weekend I did some experiments, and my conclusion is that if 
you need to start secondary world


1) make sure that your primary world is running - this will prevent 
registration process to use first (or simply lower TCP port). AltME 
starts with using ports 5400 and higher ..


2) block your ports (NAT) on your firewall. Simply put, there has 
to be some bug. Even if my primary world server was running = port 
5400 was occupied, my new world was assigned port 5400 too. Simply 
put - it has to be AltME server at SafeWorlds, which connects back 
to your site, and mistakenly uses 5400 to check. Then it registers 
5400 for your new world. This is my speculation. But the solution 
really is to block your prior (already being used) AltME ports on 
your firewall (NAT)

So - I am now running multiple worlds on a single machine succesfully 
....

To help read URL bugged posts I switch letter size to small, and 
most of the time I am able to correctly read the message :-)

I am a HUGE fan of handing over the source!  You will need to bring 
that up with Carl at this point.

This is no longer my call.

OK, I will bring it to Carl :-)

Yes...may I suggest a ralley of the troops : )

posted to Carl ... we will see what he thinks ....

Huh?  RT now owns the product?

I presumed that they were being contracted to support it ...

presumption is an odd form of science : )

logical deduction.

not necesarily correct, but logical.

:)

Oldes, I'd be surprised if the link handler were dramatically different 
to the IOS Conference link handler.  You could use that as a base 
with which to offer a fix?

Perhaps...

One of my worlds once again expired with no apparent reason :-(

hmm, so actually both of my worlds expired ...

Chris.. I don't need to see any code, I know where the bug is. Check 
this:
>> size-text make face [size: 10x10 text: "hello"]
== 9x75
>> size-text make face [size: 100x10 text: "hello"]
== 29x15

From the above it's clear that to fix the stupid link bug just needs 
to add one char (zero) to enhance the size of face which is used 
to count the text size.

Oldes, better is to turn the wrapping off completely:

size-text make face [size: 10x10 text: "hello" para: make para [wrap?: 
false]]
== 29x15

I don't care how exactly .. I just want to have the Altme fixed!

Carl did not login to r3-alpha yet, so he did not saw my message 
probably yet ... I don't want to contat him via Chat, as I am not 
sure if private messages there are really private :-)

I've send him private message in R3 Chat, do you see it?

nope

Pekr, that is why I will only run one world on a server.  I was getting 
that problem on a regular basis.  I had reported it to Safeworlds 
as well, bu they could see no reason for it.

I suspect it is due to the worlds not being 'reserved'.  But of course, 
haven't reserved a world to see if this is the case.  Bottom line, 
since I stopped all worlds but one, I have far fewer instances of 
my worlds expiring, but it still happens on occasion.

I have been having a bit of trouble with AltME. for a while it could 
not log on today, and all the time I have been using it I see it 
disconnect quite often.

It also often comes up with the message under my name of  "Internet 
busy" which I dont understand.  Now just now it said "depot update"

the same here and the same for some other ppl too. I thought it is 
my connection, but then I realised my worlds do run OK. I think it 
was rebol.net having problems ...

Short outages of this world do seem common.
You can see if an AltME world is accessible here:
http://www.altme.com/check.html