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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

mhinson
4-May-2009
[3370]
I logon = I could not logon
Sunanda
4-May-2009
[3371]
I saw a break too. Did not check the check page.

I guess they need all the help they can if there are undiagnosed 
issues.
Robert
4-May-2009
[3372]
Is there a way to sync the state between two or more AltMe systems? 
I post this from OSX and just installed AltMe there. But, the initial 
sync makes everything red... I want to have it like on my PC system.
Oldes
4-May-2009
[3373]
using the same data files should be enough.
Robert
4-May-2009
[3374x2]
So, copying it.
But will it stay in sync?
Oldes
4-May-2009
[3376x2]
I use linux and win on same PC so no need to copy.. with Mac it's 
not possible probably.
But you may try to check, which data file modifies and how.
Pekr
4-May-2009
[3378]
When I use flash disk, to prevent long syncing process (dunno why 
altme running from USB flash is so slow), I simply copy the whole 
dir. It works perfectly. Just copy all your files ...
BrianH
4-May-2009
[3379x2]
AltME uses blocking calls to file operations, and USB flash drives 
are much slower than hard drives, or even internal flash drives. 
Sometimes they are 2 or more orders of magnitude slower.
Write operations to flash are even slower still.
Rebolek
5-May-2009
[3381]
writing bunch of small files to USB flash disk is very retro in the 
floppy way.
Pekr
5-May-2009
[3382]
Pity AltME is not open sourced, we could move it to SQLite storage 
....
eFishAnt
8-May-2009
[3383]
Aha, multipler servers > 2 must be started in the order they were 
generated at first. (Reading Pekr et al)
Graham
8-May-2009
[3384]
do they just grab the next port up?
eFishAnt
8-May-2009
[3385x6]
dunno, my batting average for 4 worlds to connect is .250
I did come up with a process for IOS so I could tell people the way 
to connect many clients without all keys in one to be able to coexist 
(Ashley, Scot, Chris...IIRC)...I wonder if I can still repeat that 
now...;-)
no matter what I have tried, I am batting .250 out of 1.000 (1 of 
4 servers is reachable outside of my firewall, but I have 5400 to 
5409 open.  Chaging the order of starting servers, rebooting the 
server PC (Win2000) did not have ANY effec.t
the server which is working is the one I need the most, and is on 
5403
it doesn't matter when it starts, it works, and the others don't.
maybe there is a lease timeout like in DHCP
Graham
8-May-2009
[3391x2]
Have you thought of moving to a different solution?
ie. another rebol chat program :)
Maxim
8-May-2009
[3393]
hehehe
eFishAnt
8-May-2009
[3394x2]
you have me thinking.  Is it one I would know?  Like Qchat or something 
like that?
My server that runs on 5403 works fine, but 5400, 5401 and 5402 I 
cannot get to work.  Anyone know a way to redo the worlds without 
losing the current information to get these 3 working?  Do I need 
to buy a computer or VM for each world served?
[unknown: 5]
8-May-2009
[3396x2]
Maybe a port issue?
Downlaod this and take a look at what processes are using which ports 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897437.aspx
eFishAnt
8-May-2009
[3398x2]
Hmmn, not sure how to make sense of it, My local machined do connect, 
BTW, within my own office space.  But the AltME check fails on 3 
of them, and I can't reach them outside the firewall.  But Paul, 
on your TcpView thingamajig, I see 5400, 5401, 5402, and 5503 ports 
open, but the process names are unclear which is which.  I guess 
I have to bring them up one at a time while watching, and turn all 
other net stuff off
including this...
Pekr
8-May-2009
[3400]
eFish - first thing to check is altme.com check page. There you will 
see, what port are your particular worlds registered to ...
eFishAnt
8-May-2009
[3401x2]
Pekr, yes, I did that, and the ones that come up in TCPView are exactly 
the same as the check page, but 3 of them don't work.  only the last, 
5403
On the check page, it shows up as "Active" but I think that means 
from a registration point of view.  Pushing the button delays and 
then says there is no connectivity
[unknown: 5]
8-May-2009
[3403]
Steve, just rename the processes so you can determine which is which.
eFishAnt
8-May-2009
[3404x2]
Paul, by bringing them up one at a time, I was able to identify which 
is which.  I see no problem in the ports being used, and my router 
allows 5400 - 5409 in DMZ
but only 5403 works to the outside world.
[unknown: 5]
8-May-2009
[3406]
What about a windows firewall?
Pekr
8-May-2009
[3407]
Steve - I mean - does altme.com check page show you correct and expected 
port numbers? My experience is, that if you are not carefull enough, 
you get your worlds registered to incorrect port numbers ...
[unknown: 5]
8-May-2009
[3408x2]
Do you have another machine you can attempt to connect to those processes 
from?  Maybe use REBOL to do an open tcp://youraltmeserver:port to 
test connectivety
goto START -> RUN -> and type in Eventvwr.msc  and hit enter to see 
what your event logs are recording.
eFishAnt
8-May-2009
[3410]
I verified all 4 earlier, including the file in the servers folders...but 
let me reverify...
[unknown: 5]
8-May-2009
[3411x2]
Also, check your router event logs.  You will probably have to go 
thru the web interface for your router.
If part of this network your using is wireless then there could be 
router features enabled that restrict certain hosts from seeing other 
hosts depending on how your router is configured.
eFishAnt
8-May-2009
[3413]
I will look, you will keep me busy for a while now...;-)  thanks.
[unknown: 5]
8-May-2009
[3414]
hehe
eFishAnt
8-May-2009
[3415]
Eventvwr.msc that relate to AltME that I can tell.
Pekr
8-May-2009
[3416]
Paul - I believe those ports are actually open. You have to really 
be sure your worlds are registered properly. I registered two worlds, 
where the second one was registered mistakenly to the same port number. 
And as I use "pekr" user name with the same password, I was able 
to connect to the first world, even if I asked to connect to the 
second one.


Next thing to be sure about is to use destination NAT on your router/firewall 
- well, simply the same rule as for your 5400 port ....
[unknown: 5]
8-May-2009
[3417]
Could be Pekr, I never ran more than one world at a time.
eFishAnt
8-May-2009
[3418x2]
After 4 worlds are conquered, well only the rest of the universe 
remains for me... "The world is my oyster"  Roxy Music
This is the same Windows2K PC that ran things at Devcon2004...