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Graham 8-May-2009 [3391x2] | Have you thought of moving to a different solution? |
ie. another rebol chat program :) | |
Maxim 8-May-2009 [3393] | hehehe |
eFishAnt 8-May-2009 [3394x2] | you have me thinking. Is it one I would know? Like Qchat or something like that? |
My server that runs on 5403 works fine, but 5400, 5401 and 5402 I cannot get to work. Anyone know a way to redo the worlds without losing the current information to get these 3 working? Do I need to buy a computer or VM for each world served? | |
[unknown: 5] 8-May-2009 [3396x2] | Maybe a port issue? |
Downlaod this and take a look at what processes are using which ports http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897437.aspx | |
eFishAnt 8-May-2009 [3398x2] | Hmmn, not sure how to make sense of it, My local machined do connect, BTW, within my own office space. But the AltME check fails on 3 of them, and I can't reach them outside the firewall. But Paul, on your TcpView thingamajig, I see 5400, 5401, 5402, and 5503 ports open, but the process names are unclear which is which. I guess I have to bring them up one at a time while watching, and turn all other net stuff off |
including this... | |
Pekr 8-May-2009 [3400] | eFish - first thing to check is altme.com check page. There you will see, what port are your particular worlds registered to ... |
eFishAnt 8-May-2009 [3401x2] | Pekr, yes, I did that, and the ones that come up in TCPView are exactly the same as the check page, but 3 of them don't work. only the last, 5403 |
On the check page, it shows up as "Active" but I think that means from a registration point of view. Pushing the button delays and then says there is no connectivity | |
[unknown: 5] 8-May-2009 [3403] | Steve, just rename the processes so you can determine which is which. |
eFishAnt 8-May-2009 [3404x2] | Paul, by bringing them up one at a time, I was able to identify which is which. I see no problem in the ports being used, and my router allows 5400 - 5409 in DMZ |
but only 5403 works to the outside world. | |
[unknown: 5] 8-May-2009 [3406] | What about a windows firewall? |
Pekr 8-May-2009 [3407] | Steve - I mean - does altme.com check page show you correct and expected port numbers? My experience is, that if you are not carefull enough, you get your worlds registered to incorrect port numbers ... |
[unknown: 5] 8-May-2009 [3408x2] | Do you have another machine you can attempt to connect to those processes from? Maybe use REBOL to do an open tcp://youraltmeserver:port to test connectivety |
goto START -> RUN -> and type in Eventvwr.msc and hit enter to see what your event logs are recording. | |
eFishAnt 8-May-2009 [3410] | I verified all 4 earlier, including the file in the servers folders...but let me reverify... |
[unknown: 5] 8-May-2009 [3411x2] | Also, check your router event logs. You will probably have to go thru the web interface for your router. |
If part of this network your using is wireless then there could be router features enabled that restrict certain hosts from seeing other hosts depending on how your router is configured. | |
eFishAnt 8-May-2009 [3413] | I will look, you will keep me busy for a while now...;-) thanks. |
[unknown: 5] 8-May-2009 [3414] | hehe |
eFishAnt 8-May-2009 [3415] | Eventvwr.msc that relate to AltME that I can tell. |
Pekr 8-May-2009 [3416] | Paul - I believe those ports are actually open. You have to really be sure your worlds are registered properly. I registered two worlds, where the second one was registered mistakenly to the same port number. And as I use "pekr" user name with the same password, I was able to connect to the first world, even if I asked to connect to the second one. Next thing to be sure about is to use destination NAT on your router/firewall - well, simply the same rule as for your 5400 port .... |
[unknown: 5] 8-May-2009 [3417] | Could be Pekr, I never ran more than one world at a time. |
eFishAnt 8-May-2009 [3418x3] | After 4 worlds are conquered, well only the rest of the universe remains for me... "The world is my oyster" Roxy Music |
This is the same Windows2K PC that ran things at Devcon2004... | |
the ports in the "log" file for each server matches the ports for all 4 of these that show up in the http://www.altme.com/check.html | |
Pekr 8-May-2009 [3421] | ok, good sign. Then I would check if those worlds are reachable from the outside = if your firewall/router is properly configured ... |
Brock 9-May-2009 [3422x2] | Steve, I had similar problems when I ran multiple worlds. If starting the worlds in the order of the ports continues to not work. I would suggest creating a new world, for each that isn't working making sure to not shut the other servers to gaurantee they take the next available port. Then copy the data from the non-functioning world to the new world. |
Your users will need to access the new world by the new name, and will need to click on all of the red groups to get them back to the state they are accustomed to. | |
Pekr 9-May-2009 [3424] | Also - how do you start those world? I created cmd files na start it like: altme.com -s "My-world-server" -p 5401 |
Brock 9-May-2009 [3425] | So obviously, this is a worste case scenario. |
Graham 9-May-2009 [3426] | Not Qchat, but synapse chat |
eFishAnt 9-May-2009 [3427x4] | Thanks for those ideas. I am at the router now, trying to configure it. |
OK, I had 4 worlds, and I was trying the Brock hack, and generated a 5th to do a move of one world which would go to 5404, and it shows up happy on the checkpage. BUT...when I tried a 6th one, I got a crazy message saying that there had been too many worlds generated recently, so it wouldn't let me make the 6th one. (guess it is supposed to take seven DAYS to create a world, and I am trying to take 7 minutes, like the talk I gave at DevCon2004 ;-) | |
But then a server crash happened, and I just learned I can operate AltME server in console mode, like the IOS server, so I DON'T have to have graphics on the server running! -c flag, so I can move my world to my server farm and be as happy as the PPC assembler command, "EIEIO" ("old mac donald had a farm, e i e i o" (those crazy motorola engineers)) | |
question, what is the best way to move world data from Windoze to Linux over a connection, so permissions don't all have to be set? | |
Pekr 9-May-2009 [3431] | When you move the world, users and permissions remain, no? I for e.g. succesfully re-registered some lost world name, the only user account you are setting from scratch is the Master one ... |
eFishAnt 9-May-2009 [3432x2] | I mean file permissions, like chmod (read, write execute for files) |
If I FTP then by default the change. | |
Izkata 9-May-2009 [3434x2] | rsync has options "--perms --times --executability --owner --group" for preserving all of those |
provided the two filesystems support the same types | |
Robert 14-May-2009 [3436x2] | How can I avoud AltMe popping to the front on OSX? |
If a new posting is receied I mean. | |
Henrik 14-May-2009 [3438] | Robert, check settings. There should be an option to avoid flashing on a comment or some such. |
Robert 14-May-2009 [3439] | Ah, missed it. I was wondering because I thought something like this existed... Thx. |
Brock 14-May-2009 [3440] | Has anyone built a script to do calendar email notifications from the AltME calendar? |
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