World: r3wp

It was very difficult to add a couple people to a private group for 
many UI reasons, the worst of which is that the names weren't sorted.

The names are sorted - just in chronological order of joining.

Helpful!

Problems with the scroll bar and a lack of scroll wheel support also 
made it difficult.

You can at least start looking from the top of the list if you know 
they've been around a long time or the bottom if they're new :-)

It wouldn't hurt if some other the very long list of people who haven't 
logged in for over a year had their accounts deleted.

No, when we delete accounts their name turns to none here, and we 
lose the track of conversations. As it is we have a green none (Reichart's 
old account I think) and a powder blue none (Paul). More would be 
even more confusing.

I don't htink that you'd see any more nones if you deleted the accounts 
of people who haven't visited in more than a year.

Yeah you would, in old messages. I was looking bacck the other day 
and saw messages going back more than 3 years.

The AltME archive at REBOL.org doesn't change the name of the poster 
when their account is deleted.

Some of us use AltMe to read AltMe messages, not REBOL.org.

Does the AltME archive at REBOL.org include private and non-web-public 
groups?

No.....It's only the [web-public] ones.

But (confusingly!) there could be a [web-public] private group.....That'd 
be one that a select few could post to, but anyone could web-read.

Yes, it's extremely painful ... Carl should add the ability to sort 
on the names.

It took me close to 5 mins to find BrianH's name to add him to the 
new ~Political group.

And he wasn't close to the top where I expected him to be.

I didn't get invited here until late.

You can sort on "Activity" date/time, which should make active users 
a bit easier to find.

we're talking about in the add user to group dialog

Experimental goodie asked for by Graham.....Ability to execute code 
included in posts in this world.
eg to execute this script:
   http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp210x509
Do this in a console:
  do http://www.rebol.org/aga-do-post.r?post=r3wp210x509

Of course there are some limitations:
 1. if a post does not have a
    rebol []

    to identify the start of the code, we may fail in executing text
 2. ditto if there is text after the script
 3. assumed to be ascii file (not UTF-8 etc) right now
 4. post may take 12 to 18 hours to appear on REBOL.org archive

For those who can't properly read the above posts (View+AltME sometimes 
makes a mess of posts with multiple URLs):
    http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp151x3467

I was thinking it might be useful to view someone's view script ... 
easier to see the visuals this way since we can't include images 
in posts.

i just moved to the latest beta altme for debian linux x86 - even 
if I go off-line and come back it reports that session synced but 
most groups in rebol3 are empty; my R2-Beta world appears fully populated. 
 I bumped the chat limit up to 10000 (10k) but nothing appears to 
have been added ... grops that had new contents on my old OS ( i 
moved up to Ubuntu 9.0.4 ) even yesterday now sit empty ... am I 
bumping into a known issue?

and and my user mail is empty -

The sync bug is a very old one.
Possible partial solutions:

-- leave world running for  a long time....some groups then resync 
if a message is posted to them

-- change your message limit, and then do a search for a fairly common 
word

-- send a message (just a dot is the convention) to every group you 
want to resync
-- delete all messages and restart the world.


http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?offset=-1&post=r3wp151x920

Another possible solution (usually does not work):
--  send a message to yourself.

post hoc ergo propter hoc    a mail to me and now I have my mail

. nets the messages   thanks

(I send RobertS a private message, and it seems to have triggered 
some resyncing.....So another partial solution).

search on common rebol words seems to indicate that groups are creeping 
in ever so slowly

for me its always delete and start over, with the detail that you 
must let it complete everything before touching or posting.

but you need a fast connection or else the timeouts occur and when 
that happens, nothings syncs anymore.

Can people stop putting "." into groups to sync ... it's very annoying. 
 It turns groups red for us.

Sadly, it is sometimes the only way to trigger a proper sync of that 
group.

It can be annoying, true......But while the resync bug exists, there 
is no other guaranteed work around.

I suggest that they check on the web to see what's in web public 
groups instead

don't pollute all the groups with "."

I guess that  reinstalling AltMe and making a full sync would work. 
That way you don't have to spam-dot groups for others.

graham... did you wake up in a bad mood?
is it such a big endeavor to click on a few links ?

Forvevery "." that someone puts here, it forces every other active 
person .. maybe 30 people ... to click on that group to clear the 
red.

I'm always grouchy when software design flaws make me do unnecessary 
work

Dissatisfaction is the driving force behind innovation ... so if 
you complain about me, you're complaining about the driving force 
behind creativity and invention.

Never put up with the status quo if it can be improved ...

but the fault is altme.  so being mean to people who have to cope 
with it isn't going to change anything about altme  ;-)  its only 
going to piss of the person that's stuck with the problem.  who will 
feel even worse about having to piss of other people.


we all know that Altme is not going to be improved, its going to 
be replaced. so until that happens... you've got to live with the 


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instead of . can't they say "I'm interrested by the subject what's 
up ?" or "I like wht your doing any news" I mean when u cross someone 
in the streets you don't "." him. Or ys you do that ? I mean if you 
want the debat to live you have to apport  to it you have some how 
to participate.

graham i understand what u saying that was bothering me too ^_^ I 
hate false joy. When you "." to sync what you provoke in me is "Ho 
there is something going on their lets see if they are talking about 
thing related to the topic and if i can apport to de debat the project 
et make the things move on" that joy for me. But you delusion me 
when i see only a "."

and some other groups turn red having conversation in them and i 
don't go in to read cause they put me in bad mood like "I'm a Cristian 
I love religion I'm best" kind of groups i give a description that 
way i don't point particularly individuals wich in fact don't deserves 
my bad mood ... that's well how i'm when i read those kind of things.

so i stoped read them and my life is full of joy  ^^

but i have a problem in general with religion they all try to say 
you how you have to manage your life in some way and to go against 
the ones who want to live differently. THis life is yours man being 
free means you don't let anyone telling you how to live your life 
well until your actions don't arms other individuals.

Plus this is a place I choose to speak about rebol and work with 
people around rebol not a place to speak about my religion or if 
I do love with man or woman etc...  personal life is personal and 
that's not the place to expose it to us you can do that everwhere 
else on the net so please not here.