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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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Sunanda 22-May-2009 [3477] | (I send RobertS a private message, and it seems to have triggered some resyncing.....So another partial solution). |
RobertS 22-May-2009 [3478] | search on common rebol words seems to indicate that groups are creeping in ever so slowly |
Maxim 22-May-2009 [3479x2] | for me its always delete and start over, with the detail that you must let it complete everything before touching or posting. |
but you need a fast connection or else the timeouts occur and when that happens, nothings syncs anymore. | |
Graham 22-May-2009 [3481] | Can people stop putting "." into groups to sync ... it's very annoying. It turns groups red for us. |
Sunanda 22-May-2009 [3482] | Sadly, it is sometimes the only way to trigger a proper sync of that group. It can be annoying, true......But while the resync bug exists, there is no other guaranteed work around. |
Graham 22-May-2009 [3483x2] | I suggest that they check on the web to see what's in web public groups instead |
don't pollute all the groups with "." | |
Dockimbel 22-May-2009 [3485] | I guess that reinstalling AltMe and making a full sync would work. That way you don't have to spam-dot groups for others. |
Maxim 22-May-2009 [3486] | graham... did you wake up in a bad mood? is it such a big endeavor to click on a few links ? |
Graham 22-May-2009 [3487x4] | Forvevery "." that someone puts here, it forces every other active person .. maybe 30 people ... to click on that group to clear the red. |
I'm always grouchy when software design flaws make me do unnecessary work | |
Dissatisfaction is the driving force behind innovation ... so if you complain about me, you're complaining about the driving force behind creativity and invention. | |
Never put up with the status quo if it can be improved ... | |
Maxim 22-May-2009 [3491] | but the fault is altme. so being mean to people who have to cope with it isn't going to change anything about altme ;-) its only going to piss of the person that's stuck with the problem. who will feel even worse about having to piss of other people. we all know that Altme is not going to be improved, its going to be replaced. so until that happens... you've got to live with the __---=o00000o=---__ .o00000000000000000000o. ,00000000000000000000000000, 00000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000 '00000000000000000000000000' '0000000000000000000000' ^^D000000000000T^^ ^^^^ |
shadwolf 22-May-2009 [3492x7] | instead of . can't they say "I'm interrested by the subject what's up ?" or "I like wht your doing any news" I mean when u cross someone in the streets you don't "." him. Or ys you do that ? I mean if you want the debat to live you have to apport to it you have some how to participate. |
graham i understand what u saying that was bothering me too ^_^ I hate false joy. When you "." to sync what you provoke in me is "Ho there is something going on their lets see if they are talking about thing related to the topic and if i can apport to de debat the project et make the things move on" that joy for me. But you delusion me when i see only a "." | |
and some other groups turn red having conversation in them and i don't go in to read cause they put me in bad mood like "I'm a Cristian I love religion I'm best" kind of groups i give a description that way i don't point particularly individuals wich in fact don't deserves my bad mood ... that's well how i'm when i read those kind of things. | |
so i stoped read them and my life is full of joy ^^ | |
but i have a problem in general with religion they all try to say you how you have to manage your life in some way and to go against the ones who want to live differently. THis life is yours man being free means you don't let anyone telling you how to live your life well until your actions don't arms other individuals. | |
Plus this is a place I choose to speak about rebol and work with people around rebol not a place to speak about my religion or if I do love with man or woman etc... personal life is personal and that's not the place to expose it to us you can do that everwhere else on the net so please not here. | |
other while i was one of the first people in france to animate IRC when internet arrived in france I have been irc administrator for long so i'm used to hum spartiate epurated interface and altme even if it's not big developed I like the concept of it I just regret Carl don't participate in it with us. | |
mhinson 22-May-2009 [3499] | I like it while it works. & it dosn't fail too often now it is used to me :-) |
shadwolf 22-May-2009 [3500x3] | r3 chat is anti productive and give me head hach i like spartiate interface but R3/chat is yerk and as I told you I have particed spartiate interface for a long long time (ok you want name ? Vi BitchX telnet etc..) |
the commands are not mnemotechnic hard to remember for me if you have to read more than once the documentation the software is a failure lol | |
one day I will do rVi just to annoys you all :P | |
Graham 22-May-2009 [3503x2] | why doesn't Carl release parts of the altme code for us to fix. |
I've never used irc .. is it a chat thing? | |
shadwolf 22-May-2009 [3505x2] | because he expect selling it alot ? well he is from the big compagny way of thinking the software ... and i'm from the garage way of thinking the software you want to use it grab it you want to modify it do it. I mean having the will to use my creation and to enhance them comming from you is I satisfaction no monney can bring me ^^ |
IRC = Inetnet Relay Chat basically design by norvegian to exchange information during the long and boring winter they have it was a good way to speak with thousands of people at the same time make the thing really live. of course you have ways to select the kind of conversation you want to go on your channel | |
Graham 22-May-2009 [3507] | so, you can create your own channels? |
shadwolf 22-May-2009 [3508] | all and most of the chaing software you have now are inspired by IRC |
Graham 22-May-2009 [3509] | I thought it was just a way of controlling bot nets :) |
shadwolf 22-May-2009 [3510x2] | creating a channel is easy it was automatically created when you type /join #name_of the channel with /topic you could change the topic you were able to set password locks to only let in ppl you like |
you was able to set mode to the channel like every one can enter but they can't speak by default if they want to speak the cannle operation (the owner and his granted friends ) have to give you the right to speak (/mode usernickname +V or -v to shut him up lol) | |
Graham 22-May-2009 [3512] | And there are REBOL clients? |
shadwolf 22-May-2009 [3513x7] | you could kick and ban ppl too kick is booting out the user from you channel and ban provide him to come back |
rKini is one (not ended ...) or irc-client.r buy oldes IRc was client was my first project and how i discover rebol ^^ | |
when you say to me graphical interface + internet i think or 3D game or IRC client lol | |
see why i was attracted by rebol ^^ | |
but i should retake rKini and port it to rebgui that would be nice I think | |
so how people in IRC know what are the channel on the server and what are they talking about in you client you type /list and you get the list of all the channel and their topic (title) and the amount of people you have in it | |
of course you can limit list output to participation quotas for example or to word contained in the topic | |
Graham 22-May-2009 [3520x3] | not persistent chat though |
Didn't you help me with the Synapse chat client?? | |
That had persistent chat ... | |
shadwolf 22-May-2009 [3523x2] | yeah and even channels were not persistant so anyone could enter your channel and become the channel operator ( the first in joining a not already existing channel is set automatically chan operator) |
but now in day server offer chanel admistration services to make hem persistant and acknoledge people define by the initial owner channel operator that was proposed by Dalnet initially because I and some other proposed to much bots to manage channel and that was surcharging the server with persistant connection for nothing | |
Graham 22-May-2009 [3525x2] | but all chat is lost is it not? |
It's not stored anywhere .. | |
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