World: r3wp

one of the companies involved in this is Zemanta.. a startup from 
slovenia.. I've been at their place few times..

AltME dropping out frequently for me during the last  5 hours or 
so.

same here

Over the last day for me.

Yes, me too --- AltME REBOL3 has gone erractic again....I am watching 
it connect and disconnect every few minutes.


AltME's world check repeatedly shows it as available and then not 
responding(or not available) in a very short cycle:
www.altme.com/check.html

I've sent  a feedback to RT about this.

Connection suddenly went stable here an hour ago.

Looks good from here too.

the lights are back on again??

Seems to be.

Response from FT to feedback message:
<Rebooted it. Let's see what happens.>

Not sure if that means the server or the AltME process.....But things 
do seem better.

does already exist any channel private or public about concurrency/paralel/distributed 
computing ? if there isn't one.. does anyone else think we should 
have one?

I would like to see a channel for this.
concurrency + virtualisation + multicore = next step

I have some video about distrb. computing with rebol to post but 
I don't know whre to post it

Advocacy?

It's not so much of probotional video .. more a possible discussion 
.. I posted it to Core

altme is not playing nice with Windows 7.

What is the problem with Windows 7? 2,5 years on Vista here, and 
no single problem ....

When AltME is in full screen mode, the windows task bar now intrudes 
into the typing area as though Rebol doesn't know about the task 
bar.  I suspect it is not specific to Altme.

Also, when I drag a short cut to the startmenu, it no longer says 
shortcut to Altme, but Rebol -View System.

Hmm... only just installed windows 7 last night ( took about 5 hours 
).  I now see that browsers have the same issue .... maybe programs 
have to be updated for W7.

Could it be "XP emulation" mode that's the problem?

I didn't set anything...

A way to improve AltME's hyperlink rendering.

do http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/doc/overlaid-hyperlink-text-face.r

nice. Now we need to somehow notice Carl the fix exists ....

Good work, Anton!

Ashley, XP mode is a 440 Mb download!

Perhaps the Application Compatibility can be set for AltME to XP. 
I don't have Win7 running yet, but that setting has been there since 
XP.

The problem is sovled by auto-hiding the task bar.. though I prefer 
to keep it visible all the time.

I quite like Windows 7 .. so far it will be a stayer for me.  Only 
other bug was that I lost all my programs from the start menu.  no 
permanent fix has been published yet.

Very nice Anton!

I hate Vista....

Anyone else have this prob:


Using altme to share many files. I see them in altme but they do 
not exist in the proper altme file folder.


From what I've gathered Vista with UAC enabled (default) does not 
allow programs that do not comply with their new security API to 
write to certain folders such as "program files" whrere Altme is 
installed.


So if I try to open it with notepad, notpad can not see it as it 
does not really exist in that folder that altme tells notpads that 
its in. Vista re-routes altme to the "safe" location without altme 
knowing this.

Anyone have a work around...


I could turn off UAC but that is suppose to be bad (security reasons).


I guess I could move altme to a non secure folder (not sure what 
that would be? I think the Desktop has the same issues...
maybe just C:??

I have not altme installed on my system, I just run it IIRC, and 
in C:\!REBOL\Altme

I have few dirs prefixed with !, to get it listed in the top of my 
Total Commander panel ...

Yeah . just move Altme to a another folder.

If you are on a system with more than one user, you can do what Chrome 
does and install under each user's Local Settings folder, or Application 
Data if you don't care about roaming profiles. Different folder names 
on Vista, but the same principle. Vista's "new" security behavior 
is just working around apps that don't obey the Windows 2000 directory 
usage rules.

Wondering if it's just me, but I'm getting a lot of "Internet Busy..." 
again.

It's the same here, it seems.

Ditto.

Same...

me too

I'm trying to start an altme world from a desktop shortcut icon using 
the target : "c:\Program Files\altme\altme.exe" -s "my world"'-p 
5401


It seems to start the server as I get the little server window stating 
the name of the world and # of users total and online...

But I can not connect to the world.


Is it somekind of port problem or can you just not do this with the 
regular version of altme.


I get alot of brownouts and I would like to place the shortcut in 
my startup drawer to auto strat the world....

scroll the history in this channel. Altme is a bit weird in behaviour. 
Me and others tried to describe the aproach ....

thanks pekr

Brock wrote back in 10/07: 
<path to altme> -s 

<worldname>" -p 54xx         ; where -p is a port number 5400, increment 
by 1 for each additional world.  Use Safeworlds World Check feature 
to find out what port your world is assigned to  http://www.altme.com/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi, 
but your world must be started for the World Check feature to return 
the port it has registered for the word being checking."


When he says assigned does he mean by Safe worlds or the serving 
computer?


I tried his suggestion of the World check but it only tells you that 
its unavaiable nothing about the port...

Ok, I seem to have got it working....
So the port matters.
I guess Safe Worlds does expect it to be on a specific port.

Yes, it defaults the first running world on your machine to 5400, 
and increments each server started after the first server by 1.

amacleod:  to answer your question about who assigns the port number. 
 It's registered with Safeworlds but assigned by your computer.

So, it's important that if you intend to have two worlds running 
at the same time, to have your first world running (using port 5400) 
so when you create your second world it is given the next available 
port number (5401) and that is what Safeworlds will record for that 
second world.

It becomes more complicated if you want to remove the first world 
at a later date, cause launching your second world will use port 
5400 instead of the port number it was created under (5401), and 
the world server will be expecting 5401.  At least that was my experience 
when I was making some demo worlds a few years ago.