World: r3wp
[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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Geomol 20-Nov-2009 [3945x2] | I often see "Internet busy" in the status line up left, and my post doesn't get delivered. I found, that if I reconnect (login again in AltME), I can get my post out. |
So it's probably in the AltME server end of the communication? | |
Graham 20-Nov-2009 [3947x2] | yes, server issue ... |
I too am seeing this a lot today. Maybe we should get Henrik to host this world on linode for us ? :) | |
Reichart 20-Nov-2009 [3949] | Just for the records, the reason AltME went down last week was a hardware failure of the Network card. |
Henrik 20-Nov-2009 [3950] | Suddenly it went normal here. What switch did Reichart flip? :-) |
Reichart 20-Nov-2009 [3951] | We are also moving some lines, Carl needs to flush some IP tables, he might have done this today. |
Geomol 22-Nov-2009 [3952] | Connection problems again today, it seems. |
Chris 22-Nov-2009 [3953] | Almost constant 'Internet busy...' - can hardly stay connected long enough to post this message... |
Graham 22-Nov-2009 [3954] | Is it better now? |
Henrik 23-Nov-2009 [3955] | So what does it take to host this world somewhere else? At this point, I'm almost inclined to pay a little for better service, due to the quality of the information that can be found here. |
Graham 23-Nov-2009 [3956x3] | Just a linux box connected 24/7 and an open port |
I used to run a backup rebol altme server when it altme used to go down for ages at a time but that server is now otherwise occupied. | |
It's hard to get enthused about using altme when this particular server is so flaky | |
Henrik 23-Nov-2009 [3959] | Does the headless AltME server not cost money? |
sqlab 23-Nov-2009 [3960] | I use AltMe from a few different computers. I just observed many messages missing. It just looks as if messages are disappearing, even ones I am sure I wrote and saw already |
Oldes 23-Nov-2009 [3961] | It's almost useless now :/ |
Maxim 23-Nov-2009 [3962] | I agree. its currently, totally, broken because the server seems to be freezing all the time. there is a serious flaw in altme's tcp design. |
Henrik 23-Nov-2009 [3963] | do we know that? AltME has run fine until about a year ago. Do other worlds run off the same servers have the same trouble? |
Maxim 23-Nov-2009 [3964x2] | the flaw is in handling the connections errors... altme does everything the wrong way. blanks screens, looses messages, freezes up, doesn't properly recover, when just reconnecting to world manually actually brings a client back up for a little while. the server has been noted by Carl as being afflicted by a few networking issues, but the server is clearly available in some way, so the server/client protocol isn't very fault-tolerant IMHO. |
it seems to be back to being responsive... is it better for others here too? | |
Henrik 23-Nov-2009 [3966] | works here too |
Maxim 23-Nov-2009 [3967x2] | noticed a strange problem. my altme shows On-line. then I post... BUT it actually only synced and received posts in other groups, and DID NOT post my new message. after the sync, it still says On-line... yes... there is something very screwed up here. |
now that it synced... it works as usuall... very strange. | |
Geomol 23-Nov-2009 [3969] | AltME seems to be back to normal - seen from here. |
Maxim 23-Nov-2009 [3970] | yep now seems to be back to "nominal" operation. |
sqlab 24-Nov-2009 [3971] | But I lost some messages on one of the computers, i use to access AltMe. And I don't mean the common bug, that I do net get the recent messages. |
Reichart 24-Nov-2009 [3972] | I think we are waiting for Carl to update the DNS records for AltME. However, if someone else wants to take over this Server, I think we are open to that. |
Graham 24-Nov-2009 [3973] | Kaj, does altme server run under syallable :) ? |
Henrik 25-Nov-2009 [3974] | Need to know some things, if I am to try the server on Linode: - RAM requirements for server with the current REBOL3 world. My server has 384 MB RAM and is already doing other stuff. - Can I run headless? - Can I make a copy of this world which people can connect to for testing? Just to minimize downtime in case it won't work. |
Reichart 25-Nov-2009 [3975] | We need Carl to speak up here. |
Oldes 26-Nov-2009 [3976] | I think that last time Carl told that this world is already too big and the best way would be to setup a new one. |
Henrik 26-Nov-2009 [3977] | I don't see how that would help on a periodic networking problem, but... oh well. |
Oldes 26-Nov-2009 [3978] | It would help that your linode server does not need to handle sync of all files for all users. At least. |
Henrik 26-Nov-2009 [3979] | I guess we should observe whether the problem is worse when many users are connected and whether it's self-amplifying, when users try to re-connect all the time when the problem is there. |
Gabriele 26-Nov-2009 [3980] | AFAIK, it was a network problem, not a software problem, so the size of the world has nothing to do with it. |
Maxim 26-Nov-2009 [3981] | when the server is instable, I can confirm its not really better even when we are alone in the world. I checked the last time and was the only one here a few times and it was as bad as when some of you appeared. |
Oldes 26-Nov-2009 [3982] | I still wonder if there is any log of possible intrusions. |
Mchean 30-Nov-2009 [3983x3] | strange - started up altme and ms anti virus reported a trojan virus |
file:C:\Altme\worlds\rebol3\chat\380.set->(SCRIPT0001) | |
must be a false warning | |
Graham 1-Dec-2009 [3986] | JS ? |
Henrik 1-Dec-2009 [3987] | There was discussion about a JS exploit a while ago. It could be in that file. |
Izkata 1-Dec-2009 [3988] | 6-May-2008, someone posted a bunch of Javascript asking about SQL injection code, could that be it? |
Mchean 1-Dec-2009 [3989] | possibly - that was a suprise |
Reichart 2-Dec-2009 [3990] | Carl has been finally getting around to attending to this world, things should start working again.... |
Graham 8-Dec-2009 [3991x2] | I've moved to my new windows 7 laptop and have setup Altme in it's own directory at c:\altme |
now if I don't run as admin, it says it can't write to the state file. | |
amacleod 8-Dec-2009 [3993] | sounds as annoying as vista |
BrianH 9-Dec-2009 [3994] | Fix the permissions of the directory. AltME (like many REBOL programs) doesn't act like a proper Windows app, it acts like a portable app. It doesn't put its files in the right place for an installed Windows app. Vista and 7 are right to complain. |
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