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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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Henrik 20-Jan-2010 [4389] | and most certainly never overwrite the clipboard without the user's consent. |
Graham 20-Jan-2010 [4390x2] | :) |
Clipboard is broken in Altme most of the time | |
Maxim 20-Jan-2010 [4392] | yes cleaning up the various cliboard "copy" modes would be nice. |
Henrik 20-Jan-2010 [4393] | I wouldn't mind getting rid of right click to copy. Just depends on cleaning up the "rich text" entries with URLs in them. Alternatively, there should be an option to not format URLs. |
Graham 20-Jan-2010 [4394] | enough work has been done on Altme to last 10 more years. on to r3 |
Pekr 20-Jan-2010 [4395] | Someone posted (Oldes, Rebolek, Anton?) the code to fix URL hilite. Maybe we could get finally that ugly display bug fixed :-) |
Rebolek 20-Jan-2010 [4396] | It was Oldes, IIRC |
Andreas 20-Jan-2010 [4397] | Showing that the program works is fine, but only if it's unintrusive. Blocking the message area is extremely intrusive. Please, add an option to disable that behaviour. |
amacleod 20-Jan-2010 [4398] | My hosted worlds were down... Message stated they exist but were not online. I have never got this message before even with the other problem of wrolds becoming unregistered.. The worlds were running. Could this have been due to some of the changes Carl made...new versions and switching servers etc.... |
Maxim 20-Jan-2010 [4399x3] | maybe if the client is more recent than the server? |
there is one issue which is SO ANNOYING, I sometimes close altme before throwing out my computer by the window. when the display becomes a blue screen if the client loses its connection with the server... this is both useless and highly irritating, cause when the world re-connects (99% of the time on its own) you have to re-click on the group, which looses the "unread msg" beige highlight. it also forces you to have to re-click on the text entry with the mouse. when your internet connection is buggy or a server has troubles... disconnection may happen repetitively every few seconds. the blue just makes altme unusable in a situation where it should just stall, until a new message is sent. when a world disconnects, it should just change the color of something or put a label somewhere obvious in red color... but don't touch the GUI's functionality.... please | |
(and don't pop up a requestor until it stops trying... like it does now) | |
Henrik 20-Jan-2010 [4402] | agree |
Graham 20-Jan-2010 [4403x2] | I wonder if we shouldn't just move to rebol4 world .... and leave this one |
It's hard for new people to sync all the messages and to post here. | |
Pekr 21-Jan-2010 [4405x2] | I don't like how recent altme updates treat msg post. The caching (or undo) should be done some other way. This grey area blocking unless the message is delivered makes AltME feel like the JS crap out there ;-) |
It interrupts my flood of thougts. I am used to send, and imediatelly starting to type new msg. So - as for me, the new implementation of lost-post-protection does not feel right here ... | |
Reichart 21-Jan-2010 [4407] | True... I think the trick might be to make it look like it used to, but put a [Sending] message at the top (for example). You can go on and send more, which get cached. If anyone fails to send, or too much time goes by it changes to something like like ["Timed out"]. This is a button in fact, so clicking on it will let you resend, and you have not lost the message, or where to post it. This is our plan on Qtask well, which indeed is JS crap. Bit by bit we are all in this industry figuring out how to make everything "Feel" better. Sometimes it is simply reversing the order of things. Same time, but it just looks better... |
Graham 21-Jan-2010 [4408] | I'm getting a busy signal again ... is it only me? |
Henrik 21-Jan-2010 [4409x2] | Maybe it's just me, but I never try to start typing until a message is properly sent in any IM program, so the feel is right for me. Also doing it this way makes it clear what you are sending. |
Alternatively, the message is immediately put at the bottom with a "sending..." notifiier which disappears when the message is sent. That might be problematic for message sequencing in the list, though. | |
Graham 21-Jan-2010 [4411] | http://www.rebol.net/altweb/rebol3/ are not being updated |
Maxim 21-Jan-2010 [4412] | for me I've been stinged so often, and the delays are so short that i like the new system.. it could be a bit less dark.. it seems a bit "drastic" to me... seems to make it more dramatic than it really is. |
Carl 23-Jan-2010 [4413x6] | Still more to do on it... the original plan from long ago was to put it in the list immediately, like other IMs... but indicate that it is pending (in date field.) |
ALERT: an OS X Intel update to AltME is on www.altme.com/download | |
www.altme.com/download.html | |
To install, click on the "Run from current location"... otherwise it may hang (not sure why) | |
But, at least it runs now Intel native (via 2.7.7) | |
Also: OS X PPC and Linux libc6 AltME updated | |
denismx 24-Jan-2010 [4419] | The vote in my parts is against the gray box/input freeze while waiting confirmation of post sent. We are in the habit of starting a new post before the msg is received - we can handle the mix up it sometimes creates. But not the annoyance of typing into nothingness for a few seconds. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [4420x2] | People can always revert to an earlier version of Altme ... |
... maybe .....if they're still available to download | |
denismx 24-Jan-2010 [4422] | I understand... just putting in our vote in here. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [4423] | I personally think it's crazy for us to rely so much on a closed source tool ... |
denismx 24-Jan-2010 [4424] | I generally agree - at least the posts themselves are human readable. |
Graham 24-Jan-2010 [4425x2] | And YueM has a lot of valid points http://synapse-ehr.com/forums/showthread.php?11-ALTME-is-buggy |
Our tools should not be a block for new users just because they're not on broadband | |
denismx 24-Jan-2010 [4427x2] | I agree completely |
I can't check on Rebol3 when I'm travelling or at the cottage. Impossible. But I don't use Altme for mission critical stuff - just to keep in touch with family. Still looking for something private and not as buggy as altme. | |
Gregg 24-Jan-2010 [4429] | If you click to a new group before a message send is complete, the edit area gets stuck with a gray background. I want the old version back. |
BrianH 24-Jan-2010 [4430] | Yeah, that's a new "feature". Carl suggested puting the pending message in the grid instead, but hasn't done that yet. |
Maxim 25-Jan-2010 [4431] | altme should just add a pull-down to recuperate past posts, sort of like a "sent" group. that would solve the issue for everyone. |
Graham 25-Jan-2010 [4432x3] | At least we don't have these issues http://ejohn.org/blog/google-groups-is-dead/ John Resig abandoning googlegroups due to spam |
With over 21,000 developers I suspect Altme is not going to be a good match either! | |
I don'tt even know if there's a way to moderate new user messages .... | |
Brock 26-Jan-2010 [4435] | Is it me, or can users no longer change their own passwords? |
Graham 26-Jan-2010 [4436x2] | I would think that's a bug .... |
Hmm.. .I think it does actually change the password ...just gives that eroneous message | |
Brock 26-Jan-2010 [4438] | Ah, I didn't try the new password. It was for my laptop which has been acting up lately. I couldn't login to AltME so went to the desktop to change it. When I got the error message I didn't even try to login again with the laptop. |
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