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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

Henrik
20-Jan-2010
[4389]
and most certainly never overwrite the clipboard without the user's 
consent.
Graham
20-Jan-2010
[4390x2]
:)
Clipboard is broken in Altme most of the time
Maxim
20-Jan-2010
[4392]
yes cleaning up the various cliboard "copy" modes would be nice.
Henrik
20-Jan-2010
[4393]
I wouldn't mind getting rid of right click to copy. Just depends 
on cleaning up the "rich text" entries with URLs in them. Alternatively, 
there should be an option to not format URLs.
Graham
20-Jan-2010
[4394]
enough work has been done on Altme to last 10 more years.  on to 
r3
Pekr
20-Jan-2010
[4395]
Someone posted (Oldes, Rebolek, Anton?) the code to fix URL hilite. 
Maybe we could get finally that ugly display bug fixed :-)
Rebolek
20-Jan-2010
[4396]
It was Oldes, IIRC
Andreas
20-Jan-2010
[4397]
Showing that the program works is fine, but only if it's unintrusive. 
Blocking the message area is extremely intrusive. Please, add an 
option to disable that behaviour.
amacleod
20-Jan-2010
[4398]
My hosted worlds were down...
Message stated they exist but were not online.

I have never got this message before even with the other problem 
of wrolds becoming unregistered..

The worlds were running. 

Could this have been due to some of the changes Carl made...new versions 
and switching servers etc....
Maxim
20-Jan-2010
[4399x3]
maybe if the client is more recent than the server?
there is one issue which is SO ANNOYING, I sometimes close altme 
before throwing out my computer by the window.

 when the display becomes a blue screen if the client loses its connection 
 with the server...


this is both useless and highly irritating, cause when the world 
re-connects (99% of the time on its own) you have to re-click on 
the group, which looses the "unread msg" beige highlight.  it also 
forces you to have to re-click on the text entry with the mouse.


when your internet connection is buggy or a server has troubles... 
disconnection may happen repetitively every few seconds.  the blue 
just makes altme unusable in a situation where it should just stall, 
until a new message is sent.


when a world disconnects, it should just change the color of something 
or put a label somewhere obvious in red color... but don't touch 
the GUI's functionality.... please
(and don't pop up a requestor until it stops trying... like it does 
now)
Henrik
20-Jan-2010
[4402]
agree
Graham
20-Jan-2010
[4403x2]
I wonder if we shouldn't just move to rebol4 world .... and leave 
this one
It's hard for new people to sync all the messages and to post here.
Pekr
21-Jan-2010
[4405x2]
I don't like how recent altme updates treat msg post. The caching 
(or undo) should be done some other way. This grey area blocking 
unless the message is delivered makes AltME feel like the JS crap 
out there ;-)
It interrupts my flood of thougts. I am used to send, and imediatelly 
starting to type new msg. So - as for me, the new implementation 
of lost-post-protection does not feel right here ...
Reichart
21-Jan-2010
[4407]
True... I think the trick might be to make it look like it used to, 
but put a [Sending] message at the top (for example).  You can go 
on and send more, which get cached.  If anyone fails to send, or 
too much time goes by it changes to something like like ["Timed out"]. 
 This is a button in fact, so clicking on it will let you resend, 
and you have not lost the message, or where to post it.


This is our plan on Qtask well, which indeed is JS crap.  Bit by 
bit we are all in this industry figuring out how to make everything 
"Feel" better.  Sometimes it is simply reversing the order of things. 
 Same time, but it just looks better...
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[4408]
I'm getting a busy signal again ... is it only me?
Henrik
21-Jan-2010
[4409x2]
Maybe it's just me, but I never try to start typing until a message 
is properly sent in any IM program, so the feel is right for me. 
Also doing it this way makes it clear what you are sending.
Alternatively, the message is immediately put at the bottom with 
a "sending..." notifiier which disappears when the message is sent. 
That might be problematic for message sequencing in the list, though.
Graham
21-Jan-2010
[4411]
http://www.rebol.net/altweb/rebol3/

are not being updated
Maxim
21-Jan-2010
[4412]
for me I've been stinged so often, and the delays are so short that 
i like the new system.. it could be a bit less dark.. it seems a 
bit "drastic" to me... seems to make it more dramatic than it really 
is.
Carl
23-Jan-2010
[4413x6]
Still more to do on it... the original plan from long ago was to 
put it in the list immediately, like other IMs... but indicate that 
it is pending (in date field.)
ALERT: an OS X Intel update to AltME is on www.altme.com/download
www.altme.com/download.html
To install, click on the "Run from current location"... otherwise 
it may hang (not sure why)
But, at least it runs now Intel native (via 2.7.7)
Also: OS X PPC and Linux libc6 AltME updated
denismx
24-Jan-2010
[4419]
The vote in my parts is against the gray box/input freeze while waiting 
confirmation of post sent. We are in the habit of starting a new 
post before the msg is received - we can handle the mix up it sometimes 
creates. But not the annoyance of typing into nothingness for a few 
seconds.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[4420x2]
People can always revert to an earlier version of Altme ...
... maybe .....if they're still available to download
denismx
24-Jan-2010
[4422]
I understand... just putting in our vote in here.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[4423]
I personally think it's crazy for us to rely so much on a closed 
source tool ...
denismx
24-Jan-2010
[4424]
I generally agree - at least the posts themselves are human readable.
Graham
24-Jan-2010
[4425x2]
And YueM has a lot of valid points http://synapse-ehr.com/forums/showthread.php?11-ALTME-is-buggy
Our tools should not be a block for new users just because they're 
not on broadband
denismx
24-Jan-2010
[4427x2]
I agree completely
I can't check on Rebol3 when I'm travelling or at the cottage. Impossible. 
But I don't use Altme for mission critical stuff - just to keep in 
touch with family. Still looking for something private and not as 
buggy as altme.
Gregg
24-Jan-2010
[4429]
If you click to a new group before a message send is complete, the 
edit area gets stuck with a gray background. I want the old version 
back.
BrianH
24-Jan-2010
[4430]
Yeah, that's a new "feature". Carl suggested puting the pending message 
in the grid instead, but hasn't done that yet.
Maxim
25-Jan-2010
[4431]
altme should just add a pull-down to recuperate past posts, sort 
of like a "sent" group.  that would solve the issue for everyone.
Graham
25-Jan-2010
[4432x3]
At least we don't have these issues http://ejohn.org/blog/google-groups-is-dead/

John Resig abandoning googlegroups due to spam
With over 21,000 developers I suspect Altme is not going to be a 
good match either!
I don'tt even know if there's a way to moderate new user messages 
....
Brock
26-Jan-2010
[4435]
Is it me, or can users no longer change their own passwords?
Graham
26-Jan-2010
[4436x2]
I would think that's a bug ....
Hmm.. .I think it does actually change the password ...just gives 
that eroneous message
Brock
26-Jan-2010
[4438]
Ah, I didn't try the new password.  It was for my laptop which has 
been acting up lately.  I couldn't login to AltME so went to the 
desktop to change it.  When I got the error message I didn't even 
try to login again with the laptop.