World: r3wp

probably so ....

New participation index for the REBOL3 AltME world:
  http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-stats.r?world=r3wp&year=2010


The older prolific posters table simply counts total posts made....But 
that's a little simplistic as some people post each sentence as a 
separate post (understandable given some of AltME's connection issues) 
while others post entire multi-line essays in one post.


The new participation index attempts to adjust for that by weightng 
various things: total non-blank lines posted; total words posted; 
etc.


It is still a fairly meaningless, though remarkably consistent measure 
of the participation in the [web public] forums of this world.


Thanks to everyone who participates and keeps this place so alive 
and friendly....And especially Graham, who is the top poster no matter 
which way it is counted :)

Very cool. Thanks Sunanda.

So I have to use long words now??

And lots of different ones ....repetitions are weighted downwards 
too :)

(or lobby for some groups you are hyperactive in to become [web public]....that'll 
have an immediate boost to your already high ratings :/

Please don't do that last one. Most of the groups that aren't web-public, 
especially the hyperactive ones, are that way for a reason: privacy.

If you want to take your rants public there are other groups for 
that.

Unless it's *your* group, a group dedicated to one of your own projects. 
Then go for it :)

No problem Brian. there's a double-switch needed to make things [web 
public] at REBOL.org....
Step 1 is for  someone here to mark  a group [web public] 

Step 2 is for someone (usually me) at REBOl.org to flag that group 
as on the publication list

So mistakes, or over enthusiastic [web public]ings can be corrected.

Hi. I read the FAQ and the Altme docs. How's one to find the last 
posted messages since last login?

Do I have to go to each individual world of interest?

no, nn gives you all the messages posted since the last nn across 
all headers

sorry - didn't clue in you were asking about AltME - you can't see 
the latest since the last login, but you can sort so that the groups 
with the latest messages are at the top

Florin, on the left, you should see "M | Users | Status"  You can 
click on these:

M = Most recent
Users = Alphabetical
Status = By by status

Thanks

Just a note, I had to reinstall Altme again because of computer failure. 
 And like the previous times I got the following note from my antivirus: 
  Category: Trojan


Description: This program is dangerous and executes commands from 
an attacker.

Recommendation: Remove this software immediately.


Microsoft Security Essentials detected programs that may compromise 
your privacy or damage your computer. You can still access the files 
that these programs use without removing them (not recommended). 
To access these files, select the 'Allow' action and click 'Apply 
actions'. If this option is not available, log on as administrator 
or ask the local administrator for help.

Items: 
containerfile:C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\rebol3\chat\380.set

file:C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\rebol3\chat\380.set->(SCRIPT0001)

Get more information about this item online.

not a big confidence builder to the inexperienced

I wish this would get cleaned up, it always gives me a bit of a fright 
until I realize what's going on.

It is annoying, isn't it.
Documented here:
    http://www.altme.com/notes/blade-runner.html
and here:

    http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?offset=0&post=r3wp151x3911

hmmm... using microsoft anti-virus, guess they haven't gotten the 
memo

Does the AltME search on rebol.org also search in the poster name 
field? At first glance it seems not to.

Sorry, no it doesn't....No easy way of searching by poster name on 
REBOL.org.

Isn't this info retained?

Yes....But there is no index built to search by poster name; nor 
any easy and fast way of filtering existing results by poster name.
It could be done; but it is not doable today.

You can try via Google -- but that depends on its index being up-to-date, 
and you may get many false positives for common poster names,
eg: try this search in google....
   adrians inurl:aga site:www.rebol.org

seems to work reasonably well though you can't sort by date and filtering 
by group means having to know the group number

Glad it's close enough for your current purpose.

If you need better searches for a specific research project, consider 
writing a few lines of REBOL and scanning your own local copy of 
/altme/worlds/rebol3/

The users.set file is simply a text file from which you can map group 
numbers and poster-ids/poster names
/chat/*.set is a series of text files, one per chat group.
It is pretty easy to do.

Or take a look at modifying this:
   http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=skimp-my-altme.r

I'd have to download all messages for this - is there a way to get 
full history for all groups at once? How long does it take?

If you are seeing this world, then you already have all those messages.

And more -- you have all the groups, while REBOL.org only shows those 
with the [web-public] flag in their titles.

Check your /altme/worlds/rebol3/chat/ folder  -- it'll be in the 
30-40 meg range.

I know that when I try to search from AltME it often tells me that 
I don't have the messages needed to show the results.

AltME will only display the latest N posts from any group. So, if 
an AltME search finds a result older than that, it says it cannot 
display it.

You do have the post -- you have all of the posts. It's just that 
AltME is being coy.


You can change that N setting -- click the spanner icon and change 
your Message Limits.

But setting it too high can seriously slow down normal AltME operations.

and increase RAM sky-high  :-)

True......But you can reset the message limit once you've finished 
searching the ancient history.

I'm developing an app for searching AltME. You can apply multiple 
filters to select an intersection of: world, group, user, message-text, 
date and message-id.

At this point, it's actually usable, but I still need to improve 
the user interface so you can see and enter the filters properly. 
Currently, I'm still entering the filters in a source file.

I'm a lazzy guy, so I didn't take the time to put this on Rebol.org, 
but I have a script to read and display/export the local altme files.
http://membres.multimania.fr/didec/rebol/altme-chat-reader.r

Installation : the simple use is to put the script in your altme 
install folder and run it.


You can browse any group in any altme worlds configured on your system. 

You can scroll the entire list of messages in a group (scrool wheel 
enable). Messages are displayed like in altme (formating).
You can export the group in an Html file with formating kept.

Missing : doesn't diplay private chats (user chats).

Bugs : right click menu close the program after use (anoying isn't 
it ?)


There is no search function. But if you have time, you can mix this 
script with the skimp-altme-file script on rebol.org.

...or Anton work !

DideC,

Getting an error with your script:

** Syntax Error: Invalid char -- #"<"

** Near: (line 123) non-white-space: complement white-space: charset 
reduce [#" " newline tab cr #"<" #">"]

amacleod, I think you saved the file after loading it with a webbrowser 
or something.
Do this instead:

 load-thru/update url: http://membres.multimania.fr/didec/rebol/altme-chat-reader.r
	path-thru url
and open that file in your editor.

got it. Thanks Anton.

Looks good DideC....the search function would be nice...

For sure.

Very nice Didier.

Got a strange update...

So did I -- 1.2.23. So recent, it's not on the recent updates list:
   http://www.altme.com/new.html

I ignored it

I ignored it, but it was used the next time I started AltMe.

ditto

ditto

it must be a special double post update

can we have a privacy group created please

What's a privacy group>