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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME
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BrianH 23-Apr-2010 [4552x2] | If you want to take your rants public there are other groups for that. |
Unless it's *your* group, a group dedicated to one of your own projects. Then go for it :) | |
Sunanda 23-Apr-2010 [4554] | No problem Brian. there's a double-switch needed to make things [web public] at REBOL.org.... Step 1 is for someone here to mark a group [web public] Step 2 is for someone (usually me) at REBOl.org to flag that group as on the publication list So mistakes, or over enthusiastic [web public]ings can be corrected. |
florin 28-May-2010 [4555x2] | Hi. I read the FAQ and the Altme docs. How's one to find the last posted messages since last login? |
Do I have to go to each individual world of interest? | |
AdrianS 28-May-2010 [4557x2] | no, nn gives you all the messages posted since the last nn across all headers |
sorry - didn't clue in you were asking about AltME - you can't see the latest since the last login, but you can sort so that the groups with the latest messages are at the top | |
Reichart 28-May-2010 [4559] | Florin, on the left, you should see "M | Users | Status" You can click on these: M = Most recent Users = Alphabetical Status = By by status |
florin 29-May-2010 [4560] | Thanks |
Mchean 1-Jun-2010 [4561x3] | Just a note, I had to reinstall Altme again because of computer failure. And like the previous times I got the following note from my antivirus: Category: Trojan Description: This program is dangerous and executes commands from an attacker. Recommendation: Remove this software immediately. Microsoft Security Essentials detected programs that may compromise your privacy or damage your computer. You can still access the files that these programs use without removing them (not recommended). To access these files, select the 'Allow' action and click 'Apply actions'. If this option is not available, log on as administrator or ask the local administrator for help. Items: containerfile:C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\rebol3\chat\380.set file:C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\rebol3\chat\380.set->(SCRIPT0001) Get more information about this item online. |
not a big confidence builder to the inexperienced | |
I wish this would get cleaned up, it always gives me a bit of a fright until I realize what's going on. | |
Sunanda 1-Jun-2010 [4564] | It is annoying, isn't it. Documented here: http://www.altme.com/notes/blade-runner.html and here: http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?offset=0&post=r3wp151x3911 |
Mchean 1-Jun-2010 [4565] | hmmm... using microsoft anti-virus, guess they haven't gotten the memo |
AdrianS 2-Jun-2010 [4566] | Does the AltME search on rebol.org also search in the poster name field? At first glance it seems not to. |
Sunanda 2-Jun-2010 [4567] | Sorry, no it doesn't....No easy way of searching by poster name on REBOL.org. |
AdrianS 2-Jun-2010 [4568] | Isn't this info retained? |
Sunanda 2-Jun-2010 [4569x2] | Yes....But there is no index built to search by poster name; nor any easy and fast way of filtering existing results by poster name. It could be done; but it is not doable today. |
You can try via Google -- but that depends on its index being up-to-date, and you may get many false positives for common poster names, eg: try this search in google.... adrians inurl:aga site:www.rebol.org | |
AdrianS 2-Jun-2010 [4571] | seems to work reasonably well though you can't sort by date and filtering by group means having to know the group number |
Sunanda 2-Jun-2010 [4572] | Glad it's close enough for your current purpose. If you need better searches for a specific research project, consider writing a few lines of REBOL and scanning your own local copy of /altme/worlds/rebol3/ The users.set file is simply a text file from which you can map group numbers and poster-ids/poster names /chat/*.set is a series of text files, one per chat group. It is pretty easy to do. Or take a look at modifying this: http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=skimp-my-altme.r |
AdrianS 2-Jun-2010 [4573] | I'd have to download all messages for this - is there a way to get full history for all groups at once? How long does it take? |
Sunanda 2-Jun-2010 [4574] | If you are seeing this world, then you already have all those messages. And more -- you have all the groups, while REBOL.org only shows those with the [web-public] flag in their titles. Check your /altme/worlds/rebol3/chat/ folder -- it'll be in the 30-40 meg range. |
AdrianS 2-Jun-2010 [4575] | I know that when I try to search from AltME it often tells me that I don't have the messages needed to show the results. |
Sunanda 2-Jun-2010 [4576] | AltME will only display the latest N posts from any group. So, if an AltME search finds a result older than that, it says it cannot display it. You do have the post -- you have all of the posts. It's just that AltME is being coy. You can change that N setting -- click the spanner icon and change your Message Limits. But setting it too high can seriously slow down normal AltME operations. |
Maxim 2-Jun-2010 [4577] | and increase RAM sky-high :-) |
Sunanda 2-Jun-2010 [4578] | True......But you can reset the message limit once you've finished searching the ancient history. |
Anton 3-Jun-2010 [4579] | I'm developing an app for searching AltME. You can apply multiple filters to select an intersection of: world, group, user, message-text, date and message-id. At this point, it's actually usable, but I still need to improve the user interface so you can see and enter the filters properly. Currently, I'm still entering the filters in a source file. |
DideC 3-Jun-2010 [4580x2] | I'm a lazzy guy, so I didn't take the time to put this on Rebol.org, but I have a script to read and display/export the local altme files. http://membres.multimania.fr/didec/rebol/altme-chat-reader.r Installation : the simple use is to put the script in your altme install folder and run it. You can browse any group in any altme worlds configured on your system. You can scroll the entire list of messages in a group (scrool wheel enable). Messages are displayed like in altme (formating). You can export the group in an Html file with formating kept. Missing : doesn't diplay private chats (user chats). Bugs : right click menu close the program after use (anoying isn't it ?) There is no search function. But if you have time, you can mix this script with the skimp-altme-file script on rebol.org. |
...or Anton work ! | |
amacleod 3-Jun-2010 [4582] | DideC, Getting an error with your script: ** Syntax Error: Invalid char -- #"<" ** Near: (line 123) non-white-space: complement white-space: charset reduce [#" " newline tab cr #"<" #">"] |
Anton 3-Jun-2010 [4583] | amacleod, I think you saved the file after loading it with a webbrowser or something. Do this instead: load-thru/update url: http://membres.multimania.fr/didec/rebol/altme-chat-reader.r path-thru url and open that file in your editor. |
amacleod 3-Jun-2010 [4584] | got it. Thanks Anton. Looks good DideC....the search function would be nice... |
DideC 3-Jun-2010 [4585] | For sure. |
Gregg 3-Jun-2010 [4586] | Very nice Didier. |
Steeve 6-Jun-2010 [4587] | Got a strange update... |
Sunanda 6-Jun-2010 [4588] | So did I -- 1.2.23. So recent, it's not on the recent updates list: http://www.altme.com/new.html |
Graham 6-Jun-2010 [4589] | I ignored it |
Gregg 6-Jun-2010 [4590] | I ignored it, but it was used the next time I started AltMe. |
Tomc 7-Jun-2010 [4591x3] | ditto |
ditto | |
it must be a special double post update | |
Will 14-Jun-2010 [4594] | can we have a privacy group created please |
Graham 14-Jun-2010 [4595] | What's a privacy group> |
Will 14-Jun-2010 [4596] | discussing about privacy matters? |
Reichart 14-Jun-2010 [4597] | You wan tto talk publicly abour privacy? |
Pekr 14-Jun-2010 [4598] | Can I share my credit-card number here? :-) |
Will 14-Jun-2010 [4599] | Ok, Reichart, you are right. Please forget above request 8-) |
Reichart 14-Jun-2010 [4600x2] | Wow, I really munged that typing... LOL Will, can you give me one more hint what you mean by Privacy, I'm more than happy to create teh group, just want to make sure we all understand exactly what it is. Privacy has many meanings (to me at least). |
For example, Qtask has the ability to lock messages with 448 bit "local" encrypt. Meaning, we never even get anything that can be opened. The password to the message is encrypted locally as well. And, if you have many passwords, they are put in a master box of keys that are also encrypted locally. Is this the type of thing you are talking about? | |
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