World: r3wp

Does the AltME search on rebol.org also search in the poster name 
field? At first glance it seems not to.

Sorry, no it doesn't....No easy way of searching by poster name on 
REBOL.org.

Isn't this info retained?

Yes....But there is no index built to search by poster name; nor 
any easy and fast way of filtering existing results by poster name.
It could be done; but it is not doable today.

You can try via Google -- but that depends on its index being up-to-date, 
and you may get many false positives for common poster names,
eg: try this search in google....
   adrians inurl:aga site:www.rebol.org

seems to work reasonably well though you can't sort by date and filtering 
by group means having to know the group number

Glad it's close enough for your current purpose.

If you need better searches for a specific research project, consider 
writing a few lines of REBOL and scanning your own local copy of 
/altme/worlds/rebol3/

The users.set file is simply a text file from which you can map group 
numbers and poster-ids/poster names
/chat/*.set is a series of text files, one per chat group.
It is pretty easy to do.

Or take a look at modifying this:
   http://www.rebol.org/view-script.r?script=skimp-my-altme.r

I'd have to download all messages for this - is there a way to get 
full history for all groups at once? How long does it take?

If you are seeing this world, then you already have all those messages.

And more -- you have all the groups, while REBOL.org only shows those 
with the [web-public] flag in their titles.

Check your /altme/worlds/rebol3/chat/ folder  -- it'll be in the 
30-40 meg range.

I know that when I try to search from AltME it often tells me that 
I don't have the messages needed to show the results.

AltME will only display the latest N posts from any group. So, if 
an AltME search finds a result older than that, it says it cannot 
display it.

You do have the post -- you have all of the posts. It's just that 
AltME is being coy.


You can change that N setting -- click the spanner icon and change 
your Message Limits.

But setting it too high can seriously slow down normal AltME operations.

and increase RAM sky-high  :-)

True......But you can reset the message limit once you've finished 
searching the ancient history.

I'm developing an app for searching AltME. You can apply multiple 
filters to select an intersection of: world, group, user, message-text, 
date and message-id.

At this point, it's actually usable, but I still need to improve 
the user interface so you can see and enter the filters properly. 
Currently, I'm still entering the filters in a source file.

I'm a lazzy guy, so I didn't take the time to put this on Rebol.org, 
but I have a script to read and display/export the local altme files.
http://membres.multimania.fr/didec/rebol/altme-chat-reader.r

Installation : the simple use is to put the script in your altme 
install folder and run it.


You can browse any group in any altme worlds configured on your system. 

You can scroll the entire list of messages in a group (scrool wheel 
enable). Messages are displayed like in altme (formating).
You can export the group in an Html file with formating kept.

Missing : doesn't diplay private chats (user chats).

Bugs : right click menu close the program after use (anoying isn't 
it ?)


There is no search function. But if you have time, you can mix this 
script with the skimp-altme-file script on rebol.org.

...or Anton work !

DideC,

Getting an error with your script:

** Syntax Error: Invalid char -- #"<"

** Near: (line 123) non-white-space: complement white-space: charset 
reduce [#" " newline tab cr #"<" #">"]

amacleod, I think you saved the file after loading it with a webbrowser 
or something.
Do this instead:

 load-thru/update url: http://membres.multimania.fr/didec/rebol/altme-chat-reader.r
	path-thru url
and open that file in your editor.

got it. Thanks Anton.

Looks good DideC....the search function would be nice...

For sure.

Very nice Didier.

Got a strange update...

So did I -- 1.2.23. So recent, it's not on the recent updates list:
   http://www.altme.com/new.html

I ignored it

I ignored it, but it was used the next time I started AltMe.

ditto

ditto

it must be a special double post update

can we have a privacy group created please

What's a privacy group>

discussing about privacy matters?

You wan tto talk publicly abour privacy?

Can I share my credit-card number here? :-)

Ok, Reichart, you are right. Please forget above request 8-)

Wow, I really munged that typing... LOL


Will, can you give me one more hint what you mean by Privacy, I'm 
more than happy to create teh group, just want to make sure we all 
understand exactly what it is.  Privacy has many meanings (to me 
at least).

For example, Qtask has the ability to lock messages with 448 bit 
"local" encrypt.  Meaning, we never even get anything that can be 
opened.  The password to the message is encrypted locally as well. 
 And, if you have many passwords, they are put in a master box of 
keys that are also encrypted locally.

Is this the type of thing you are talking about?

Once upon a time, browsers sending referrers was considered a breach 
of privacy.

Today there is this great plugin for firefox that try to anonymize 
your searches on google

http://www.googlesharing.net/. I thing it's useful, I wanted to 
share.
Are altMe private chats secure from say, Reichart?
 ;-)
Should we give out our privacy?

People's different meaning about privacy, would also be interesting.

These are some examples that I see would have fit in a privacy group.

I created "~Privacy & Security" The "~" means it is not specifically 
REBOL.


To answer your question, YES, your PMs are private from me.  I do 
not posses in any form direct access to the servers.  I would have 
to ask Carl.

Same is true on Qtask, I would have to ask our DB lead.  We log all 
requests.  However ,if you use the Lock in Qtask, then no one, even 
the NSA can get in (based on the evidence).

one thing I have noticed with altME is that I cannot use the up and 
down  keyboard arrow controls to browse the posts.   This would be 
really handy.  A simple left click on the frame to get the frame 
active  or maybe a hotkey to switch to the next frame.  Actually 
I should read up on using altMe via keyboard before I go on, maybe 
what I am after is already implemented.

That's correct. You can't do that in AltME.

:-( as I am using altME on a netbook at the moment

you can use the scroll-wheel.

yes so i see, i've just plugged in the bluetooth mouse.   It's still 
not as satisfying as having a highlight bar and using up/down keys 
with smooth scrolling and ideally acceleration.


When using the slider and even the scroll wheel it's very easy to 
loose position.  i've found tthe mouse wheel isn't very responsive 
for me and neither scrolls fast or smoothly.  it's just not  very 
responsive IMHO.  Netbook overloaded perhaps although opera is still 
scrolling very nicely.

I agree.

Currently my scrolling method (on mac) is to click down on the scrollbar, 
move the mouse outside the window, then release.  Moving the mouse 
up and down gives relatively good scrolling control.  Works on both 
the chat window and user list.

Today, it is horrible to communicate in AltMe, I had to close the 
program and restart it a couple of times already to be able to get 
my message through

I don't have problems today, though my antenna connection is not 
great.

Why isn't there an archive project here that cleans up older groups? 
 If a group has been non-active for over a year and is private group 
then it gets deleted.  Public groups that have no activity for over 
a year get archived?

I would suspect that we would gain a performance increase if this 
was done.

Anyone?