World: r3wp

The usual delay increased to multiple seconds for me. Well, ...

fingers crossed that it'll get better soon :)

Stop torrenting for a while .. see if that helps

its up and down... was annoying earlier... seems better right now.

about  0.75s now.

and sometimes, instantaneous.

.

2.6s for me

A signal to leave AltME alone for now, and do something more productive 
:)

I downloaded http://www.intellipool.se/their networking monitoring 
tool to try out ...

We need a more specific tool to monitor rebol services and servers

I've received an update. Something with checklists not updating properly 
has been fixed.

I clicked on the button to show me the details and then it didn't 
offer to update again

It took me to this page
http://www.altme.com/new.html

Are you stuck on an older version than 1.2.25 ?

1.2.24 ...

I have 1.2.25 here.

I had the same thing Graham.....But when I restarted AltME, it was 
1.2.25.

it was in an upgrade loop .. kept asking me to upgrade to .25 after 
I upped

Search and extract AltME messages:
http://anton.wildit.net.au/rebol/util/AltME/AltME-helper-funcs.r

For anyone using Vista or Sys7, there is a new AltME to test that 
installs better:

  www.altme.com/download/altme26c.exe


We want to release it in about 12 hours, so if you have any problems, 
please let me know.

Just tried it on Vista:

-- needed Admin level to install in current folder installation folder

-- PCTool's Threatfire reported it as "high risk" -- because it was 
copying files to multiple locations

-- did a resync, downloaded a lot of older messages, and turned many 
groups red....Not in itself a bad thing as that could properly sync 
some groups with missing messages; but a little surprising as most 
of the red groups had no new messages.

What was the current folder you were trying to install to?

The current folder it is installed in:
  program files/altme

And did it pop up a UAC prompt? It it was installing to any of the 
program files directories, it should have asked for admin by a UAC 
prompt.

And if it did, it should have put its data files somewhere under 
the user data directories, not in program files.

I'm not saying that is what it did for me, I'm saying that is what 
an app should do, especially on Vista/7/2008.

No, it popped up an AktME box saying iy could not install for one 
of two reasons:
-- altme already running (it was not)
-- needs admin-level permission
I restarted it with admin-level permission


It looks like the data files have been installed in a different location 
to where they were before. This may be a good thing in the longer-term. 
But a little confusing just now.

Sorry -- got to go now.....Back in 12 hours.

AltME is a tiny program that doesn't handle any file extensions. 
It should be installing under C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Local (for the 
Brian user, i.e.). You can get that value from the "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell 
Folders" key, in the "Local AppData" value.

That will work on any version of Windows starting with 2000, and 
possibly earlier.

Personally, I run AltME as a portable app, but if I ran it as a local 
app that is where I would put it. Chrome installs in the same location 
too.

To clarify: AltME attempts to install in %appdata% (which is the 
path indicated above by BrianH.) It then uses "local" not "roaming".

However, for a "reinstall" vs a "fresh install" it will try to use 
your older installed location. That's why the above happened.

I suppose that this feature should be "removed" -- what do you think?

what feature?  the reinstall?

Reinstall using the prior location rather than the appdata location.

you could copy the files to the new installation path. on people 
with slow or buggy connections, this will make a huge impact.

Yes... I was thinking of doing that.

that would be the best solution. it makes Altme windows compliant, 
from that point on.

I wonder if Vista/Sys7 will complain if we copy files (read access) 
out of that dir?

(I don't use Vista or Sys7, and plan never to do so.)

It shoudn't complain, AFAIK.

Strange. The "reinstall" method is commented out. It would only use 
PF dir if appdata var has no value.

Sunanda, what OS are you running?

Whoops, sorry, no. Wrong version. Ignore last msg.

If you are fixing the Windows Virtual Store problem (which is a Windows 
problem that AltME is a victim of) then a little bit of inconvenience 
to fix it is acceptable -- at least to me.

Interestingly, it looks to me like this world got resynced, but the 
other worlds I look at regularly (eg REBOL-gate) did not....So perhaps 
the resync was an artefact of the upgrade; and it did not affect 
worlds opened after the upgrade was complete.

Yes, it needs to be fixed. Too many users having problems.

Odd problem... that resync for this world.

Carl, you should also try running AltME in XP or 2000 as a regular 
user (not "Power User" or admin), without making any changes to the 
permissions of the AltME directory. Oh, and your %appdata% to local 
trick won't work on XP or 2000 because the naming convention for 
the directories is different. The registry method works for all Windows 
2000+ though.

We normally test with regular user (Cindy's task.)

%appdata% works on XP.  Perhaps added to an SP?


This release should do the right thing. Even if you installed earlier 
in PF, it will try to move it, unless you opt not to.

www.altme.com/download/altme26e.exe

You will need to reinstall with it, or run with +i on command line 
to force reinstall.

Checking in. I guess it works ok?

Other than the install issue, it's working well for me.