World: r3wp

Thanks Reichart and Brock. I'm a happy camper now and can reboot 
my server any time without that  oh man, now I have to start all 
those worlds again. :-)

Hello everybody, anytime I start AltMe I receive the message that 
there is a file to download. If I click yes, I obtain (you aren't 
allowed). If I click no, next time I start AltMe I obtain again the 
message.
Is there a way  to stop this pop-up?

I've never seen this message though others report it

I was only getting it on linux (even after it was thought to have 
been removed)

I was also getting it (linux), but now it the file appears to be 
gone and it's stopped

Let us know if this continues Max. File sharing has been disabled 
on this world, but there seems to be a glitch. I haven't seen it, 
and it's cleared up for others, so you may be our special test case 
to help track it down.

Even today, WinXp

You can see it at:

http://picasaweb.google.it/lh/photo/-RPEWNH_Ce2JZHUsxAwLpw?feat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.it/lh/photo/tceCVdV4J_juX1WAi_rqBw?feat=directlink

MaxV, fumbling in the dark, but does it also occur, if you click 
the drop down in the upper left corner (where the world name is labeled) 
and select the world you are logged into?

It happens also selcting Rebol3 world.

Is there a log file mode to activate?

I just tried to resolve upgrading from 1.2.25  to 1.2.26; but I have 
again this bug.

I don't think there is one. Are you using filesharing on other worlds?

No, I use only Rebol3 world

Is this world really slow for anyone else this past week, particularly 
when posting?

yes and so have some rebol sites

Thanks Max. My connection is sometimes to blame, and we're spoiled 
by how fast things usually are with AltMe.

though some groups like view have become sufficiantly big that they 
are starting to be slow to update.

I sometimes see a bit of CPU usage with this AltME world.

Bug: I just posted in Core group. There was a delay before the message 
was echoed back to me, so before that happened I switched to another 
group to continue reading. Then I switched back to Core, and found 
my message echoed properly. However, my message was still in the 
New message text entry area.

Damn, it just happened again with this message.

Anton, connection problems?

Yes, slow satellite connection, especially at this time of day. Nevertheless, 
AltME should not behave this way.

Altme is getting exeedingly slow in posting messages ... is this 
a network issue or some type of inherent lack of scalability?

testing....

about 5 seconds for a post for me. not slower than usual.

Graham -- please try an experiment:
-- Hop over to rebol-gate [id: guest password: guest]
-- Make a few posts in the Playpen group

rebol-gate is a tiny world, so it may help pinpoint if the problem 
is a world scaling issue.

Chris is reporting 30 seconds

but it varies throughout the day

rebol-gate is instant

Thanks. 

That's useful evidence that the problem is not network or server 
related [rebol3 and rebol-gate run on the same server]


Next step ---  is it better or worse in groups with many messages? 
(ie is the problem the world or the group):

--could you try a test post or two in a couple of groups that have 
less than 100 posts?
  list available here: http://www.rebol.org/aga-index.r

I was sending messages to chris here .. and they were taking 30 seconds 
too

-- Do you have a _lot_ of private messages between you and Chris?

-- Do you see similar delays when private messaging with other members 
of this world?

[It could be that the private message distribution process is affected, 
while the broadcast of public messages is  not]

i think it's time dependent

Thanks. That suggests the server running this world gets overloaded 
at times.

let me see how long this takes to post

3 secs

but 7 seconds to send a private message

a simple load indication from the server could tell something

private messages are single HUGE bin for every user.

so if you've PM many times in the past with anyone, it all adds up. 
 this *is* a design issue.

some groups also have started to become rather slow (the view group, 
for example)

Hmm, so if Graham rejoined as GChiu (say) he'd have an empty private 
message set, and his messaging would be fast again....

....Sounds like a good justification for a second account for a prolific 
member of a busy world.

....Or for AltME to provide a purging mechanism for old private messages.

(If the private message slowdown is true, that is.)

it is... I've discussed it directly with Carl  :-)

Did you test it as well?

discussion != empirics

yes.  I often create private groups to chat with people so its not 
mind-bogling slow.

Well, I guess someone should then revamp the storage mechanism.

Altme should really be released open source so we can fix these things.