World: r3wp

I've had to restart AltMe a couple times today, just to clear the 
unsent message field.

5 seconds for me.  No other bugs with AltME for the most part.

I have learned though that if you have a message ready to be sent, 
and change groups a few times, when you hit send, it is not 100% 
sure it will be sent to the corrrect group.

Maybe there should be some kind of tag written, just as send is pressed, 
so that it appears with guarantee in the correct group.

My guess is that it's the server that takes time to append the message 
in the chat file.

Dunno if it does a simple append to the file but if it needs to load 
it in memory, append the block, then write it down to disk, it could 
explain why bigger chat files take longer to update !!

Test

Looking at my Altme file activity (Filemon) when I post a message 
:

- Nothing happens until the server has done its job and send back 
the new message for the corresponding group/user.

- Then I see that the corresponding chat file is wrote entirely by 
block of 4096B !

- Then the state file (chatMYALTMEID) is updated (wrote by chunk 
of 4096B).

[I'm just guessing here] There are at least three different data 
sets to update when I send a private message to (say) Graham:
-1- my chat local *.set file

-2- whatever data sets are held on the server to record the message 
(I have no idea what these are)
-3- Graham's local *.set file


The first two could contribute to perceived slowness in sending; 
the third to any apparent slowness in updating/downloading messages.


Append/lines to a 4.5 meg file does not take long on my machine (not 
does read/lines) so I'm primed to suspect the problem is on the server.


What would be interesting to know is if the grayness I see when sending 
a message ends when:
-a- the server acknowledges receipt; or
-b- when the server has finished committing all its updates.


If it is -b-, then moving the server response to be -a- could create 
a significant perceived increase in responsiveness.

My guess is that own posts are updated locally like any other post 
: while the server send it back to you as an update. I mean: 1) the 
post is send to the server, 2) it update the DB, then 3) it send 
the post back to you, 4) your altme updates its files.

Anyone hosting some Altme world there ?

there=here

Yes, I have several.

James : It would be interesting for us if you can look the file activity 
of a world server when a new post is send.

I use Filemon from Sysinternals (no included in Process monitor) 
for that.
Can you test this for us and tell us what happens ?

Didier, Process Monitor includes both file and registry monitoring 
- it effectively obsoletes regmon and filemon. You might be thinking 
of Process Explorer.

Also, technically, a given send box should be directly connected 
to the given group, so you can send, and even if it is in transit 
or waiting you can go on and work on other messages.

We do tag messages this way in Qtask, but we have seen this same 
bug, but don't have proof (as I do in AltME) that it is the program 
and not the operator.  But I'm always on the look out for it since 
it can be a very dangerous bug for some people.


This whole class of issue falls to a perceived form of latency, and 
a series of features are needed to suppress it.  For example, instead 
of graying the out going message area, just make it look like it 
was sent, but also instantly add a “message hour glass” in the “New 
message” bar when on that group, and, also create a new tinted empty 
box in the thread saying something like “Waiting for new message 
to post”.


This frees you up to go elsewhere.  If you come back to the same 
group it is clear what state it is in.  If you want to retrieve the 
sent message just click on the “Message hour glass” and it will bring 
it back into the input box.


Lastly, of course, if you try to leave AltME before it is done sending, 
need to offer people a dialog warning them , and giving them access 
to the messages waiting.

There is more, but yeah, it takes a lot to make this work.

(of note, this message posted in 1 second)

Reichart, I agree, all those features would be a tremendous improvement.

DideC, the following was taken from processmonitor:

4:57:00.5195412 PM	altme.exe	1492	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.chg	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Disposition: OpenIf, Options: 
Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, 
Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, AllocationSize: 0, OpenResult: 
Opened

4:57:00.5198317 PM	altme.exe	1492	QueryInformationVolume	C:\Program 
Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.chg	SUCCESS	VolumeCreationTime: 
2/12/2010 10:37:05 AM, VolumeSerialNumber: 000E-5EC7, SupportsObjects: 
True, VolumeLabel: 

4:57:00.5200764 PM	altme.exe	1492	QueryAllInformationFile	C:\Program 
Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.chg	BUFFER OVERFLOW	CreationTime: 
2/12/2010 1:20:09 PM, LastAccessTime: 9/25/2010 4:55:35 PM, LastWriteTime: 
9/25/2010 4:55:35 PM, ChangeTime: 9/25/2010 4:55:35 PM, FileAttributes: 
A, AllocationSize: 296, EndOfFile: 292, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: 
False, Directory: False, IndexNumber: 0x1000000002fd2, EaSize: 0, 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Position: 0, Mode: Sequential 
Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, AlignmentRequirement: Word

4:57:00.5209299 PM	altme.exe	1492	QueryStandardInformationFile	C:\Program 
Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.chg	SUCCESS	AllocationSize: 
296, EndOfFile: 292, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: 
False

4:57:00.5211763 PM	altme.exe	1492	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.chg	SUCCESS	Offset: 
292, Length: 4

4:57:00.5215235 PM	altme.exe	1492	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.chg	SUCCESS	

4:57:00.5243792 PM	altme.exe	1492	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Disposition: OverwriteIf, 
Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory 
File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, AllocationSize: 0, OpenResult: 
Overwritten

4:57:00.5246281 PM	altme.exe	1492	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Directory, Synchronous 
IO Non-Alert, Open For Backup, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, 
AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened

4:57:00.5248293 PM	altme.exe	1492	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat	SUCCESS	

4:57:00.5248513 PM	altme.exe	1492	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat	SUCCESS	

4:57:00.5256763 PM	altme.exe	1492	QueryInformationVolume	C:\Program 
Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	VolumeCreationTime: 
2/12/2010 10:37:05 AM, VolumeSerialNumber: 000E-5EC7, SupportsObjects: 
True, VolumeLabel: 

4:57:00.5259221 PM	altme.exe	1492	QueryAllInformationFile	C:\Program 
Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	BUFFER OVERFLOW	CreationTime: 
2/12/2010 1:20:09 PM, LastAccessTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:00 PM, LastWriteTime: 
9/25/2010 4:57:00 PM, ChangeTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:00 PM, FileAttributes: 
A, AllocationSize: 0, EndOfFile: 0, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: 
False, Directory: False, IndexNumber: 0x1000000002fd3, EaSize: 0, 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Position: 0, Mode: Sequential 
Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, AlignmentRequirement: Word

4:57:00.5263666 PM	altme.exe	1492	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
0, Length: 4,096

4:57:00.5267764 PM	altme.exe	1492	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	FAST 
IO DISALLOWED	Offset: 4,096, Length: 4,096

4:57:00.5270125 PM	altme.exe	1492	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
4,096, Length: 4,096

4:57:00.5277232 PM	altme.exe	1492	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
8,192, Length: 4,096

4:57:00.5280137 PM	altme.exe	1492	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
12,288, Length: 4,096

4:57:00.5282825 PM	altme.exe	1492	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	FAST 
IO DISALLOWED	Offset: 16,384, Length: 4,096

4:57:00.5285077 PM	altme.exe	1492	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
16,384, Length: 4,096

4:57:00.5288736 PM	altme.exe	1492	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
20,480, Length: 3,470

4:57:00.5291306 PM	altme.exe	1492	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	

4:57:00.5292988 PM	altme.exe	1492	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	

4:57:00.5299280 PM	altme.exe	1492	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.chg	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Disposition: OpenIf, Options: 
Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, 
Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, AllocationSize: 0, OpenResult: 
Opened

4:57:00.5301501 PM	altme.exe	1492	QueryInformationVolume	C:\Program 
Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.chg	SUCCESS	VolumeCreationTime: 
2/12/2010 10:37:05 AM, VolumeSerialNumber: 000E-5EC7, SupportsObjects: 
True, VolumeLabel: 

4:57:00.5303400 PM	altme.exe	1492	QueryAllInformationFile	C:\Program 
Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.chg	BUFFER OVERFLOW	CreationTime: 
2/12/2010 1:19:53 PM, LastAccessTime: 9/25/2010 4:55:35 PM, LastWriteTime: 
9/25/2010 4:55:35 PM, ChangeTime: 9/25/2010 4:55:35 PM, FileAttributes: 
A, AllocationSize: 77,824, EndOfFile: 74,727, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: 
False, Directory: False, IndexNumber: 0x1000000002e83, EaSize: 0, 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Position: 0, Mode: Sequential 
Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, AlignmentRequirement: Word

4:57:00.5305657 PM	altme.exe	1492	QueryStandardInformationFile	C:\Program 
Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.chg	SUCCESS	AllocationSize: 
77,824, EndOfFile: 74,727, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, 
Directory: False

4:57:00.5307507 PM	altme.exe	1492	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.chg	SUCCESS	Offset: 
74,727, Length: 4

4:57:00.5317625 PM	altme.exe	1492	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.chg	SUCCESS	

4:57:00.5355275 PM	altme.exe	1492	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.set	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Disposition: OverwriteIf, 
Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory 
File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, AllocationSize: 0, OpenResult: 
Overwritten

4:57:00.5357293 PM	altme.exe	1492	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Directory, Synchronous 
IO Non-Alert, Open For Backup, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, 
AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened

4:57:00.5358812 PM	altme.exe	1492	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara	SUCCESS	

4:57:00.5359027 PM	altme.exe	1492	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara	SUCCESS	

4:57:00.5366269 PM	altme.exe	1492	QueryInformationVolume	C:\Program 
Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.set	SUCCESS	VolumeCreationTime: 
2/12/2010 10:37:05 AM, VolumeSerialNumber: 000E-5EC7, SupportsObjects: 
True, VolumeLabel: 

4:57:00.5368179 PM	altme.exe	1492	QueryAllInformationFile	C:\Program 
Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.set	BUFFER OVERFLOW	CreationTime: 
2/12/2010 1:19:53 PM, LastAccessTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:00 PM, LastWriteTime: 
9/25/2010 4:57:00 PM, ChangeTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:00 PM, FileAttributes: 
A, AllocationSize: 0, EndOfFile: 0, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: 
False, Directory: False, IndexNumber: 0x300000000002e84, EaSize: 
0, Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Position: 0, Mode: Sequential 
Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, AlignmentRequirement: Word

4:57:00.5371021 PM	altme.exe	1492	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
0, Length: 3,544

4:57:00.5374496 PM	altme.exe	1492	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.set	SUCCESS	

4:57:00.5375367 PM	altme.exe	1492	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\servers\nakakihara\registry.set	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5427517 PM	altme.exe	12200	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\registry.set	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Disposition: OverwriteIf, 
Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory 
File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, AllocationSize: 0, OpenResult: 
Overwritten

4:57:04.5429673 PM	altme.exe	12200	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Directory, Synchronous 
IO Non-Alert, Open For Backup, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, 
AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened

4:57:04.5431218 PM	altme.exe	12200	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5431436 PM	altme.exe	12200	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5438713 PM	altme.exe	12200	QueryInformationVolume	C:\Program 
Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\registry.set	SUCCESS	VolumeCreationTime: 
2/12/2010 10:37:05 AM, VolumeSerialNumber: 000E-5EC7, SupportsObjects: 
True, VolumeLabel: 

4:57:04.5440655 PM	altme.exe	12200	QueryAllInformationFile	C:\Program 
Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\registry.set	BUFFER OVERFLOW	CreationTime: 
2/21/2010 8:17:46 PM, LastAccessTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, LastWriteTime: 
9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, ChangeTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, FileAttributes: 
A, AllocationSize: 0, EndOfFile: 0, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: 
False, Directory: False, IndexNumber: 0x50000000026e1, EaSize: 0, 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Position: 0, Mode: Sequential 
Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, AlignmentRequirement: Word

4:57:04.5443479 PM	altme.exe	12200	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\registry.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
0, Length: 3,298

4:57:04.5452260 PM	altme.exe	12200	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\registry.set	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5453489 PM	altme.exe	12200	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\registry.set	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5535307 PM	altme.exe	12200	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\state	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Disposition: OverwriteIf, 
Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory 
File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, AllocationSize: 0, OpenResult: 
Overwritten

4:57:04.5537371 PM	altme.exe	12200	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Directory, Synchronous 
IO Non-Alert, Open For Backup, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, 
AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened

4:57:04.5538911 PM	altme.exe	12200	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5539140 PM	altme.exe	12200	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5545705 PM	altme.exe	12200	QueryInformationVolume	C:\Program 
Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\state	SUCCESS	VolumeCreationTime: 2/12/2010 
10:37:05 AM, VolumeSerialNumber: 000E-5EC7, SupportsObjects: True, 
VolumeLabel: 

4:57:04.5547627 PM	altme.exe	12200	QueryAllInformationFile	C:\Program 
Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\state	BUFFER OVERFLOW	CreationTime: 
2/21/2010 8:17:46 PM, LastAccessTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, LastWriteTime: 
9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, ChangeTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, FileAttributes: 
A, AllocationSize: 0, EndOfFile: 0, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: 
False, Directory: False, IndexNumber: 0x100000000da8a, EaSize: 0, 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Position: 0, Mode: Sequential 
Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, AlignmentRequirement: Word

4:57:04.5550102 PM	altme.exe	12200	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\state	SUCCESS	Offset: 
0, Length: 184

4:57:04.5552809 PM	altme.exe	12200	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\state	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5553641 PM	altme.exe	12200	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\state	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5712081 PM	altme.exe	12200	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Disposition: OverwriteIf, 
Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory 
File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, AllocationSize: 0, OpenResult: 
Overwritten

4:57:04.5714824 PM	altme.exe	12200	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Directory, Synchronous 
IO Non-Alert, Open For Backup, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, 
AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened

4:57:04.5716849 PM	altme.exe	12200	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5717076 PM	altme.exe	12200	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5725515 PM	altme.exe	12200	QueryInformationVolume	C:\Program 
Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	VolumeCreationTime: 
2/12/2010 10:37:05 AM, VolumeSerialNumber: 000E-5EC7, SupportsObjects: 
True, VolumeLabel: 

4:57:04.5727921 PM	altme.exe	12200	QueryAllInformationFile	C:\Program 
Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	BUFFER OVERFLOW	CreationTime: 
2/21/2010 8:18:22 PM, LastAccessTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, LastWriteTime: 
9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, ChangeTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, FileAttributes: 
A, AllocationSize: 0, EndOfFile: 0, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: 
False, Directory: False, IndexNumber: 0x100000000dac0, EaSize: 0, 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Position: 0, Mode: Sequential 
Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, AlignmentRequirement: Word

4:57:04.5732424 PM	altme.exe	12200	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
0, Length: 4,096

4:57:04.5736452 PM	altme.exe	12200	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	FAST 
IO DISALLOWED	Offset: 4,096, Length: 4,096

4:57:04.5738807 PM	altme.exe	12200	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
4,096, Length: 4,096

4:57:04.5742406 PM	altme.exe	12200	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
8,192, Length: 4,096

4:57:04.5745250 PM	altme.exe	12200	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
12,288, Length: 4,096

4:57:04.5747951 PM	altme.exe	12200	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	FAST 
IO DISALLOWED	Offset: 16,384, Length: 4,096

4:57:04.5750261 PM	altme.exe	12200	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
16,384, Length: 4,096

4:57:04.5753840 PM	altme.exe	12200	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	Offset: 
20,480, Length: 3,467

4:57:04.5756441 PM	altme.exe	12200	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5761567 PM	altme.exe	12200	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\18.set	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5788099 PM	altme.exe	12200	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\chat4	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Disposition: OverwriteIf, 
Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory 
File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, AllocationSize: 0, OpenResult: 
Overwritten

4:57:04.5790912 PM	altme.exe	12200	CreateFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: Directory, Synchronous 
IO Non-Alert, Open For Backup, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, 
AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened

4:57:04.5792937 PM	altme.exe	12200	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5793150 PM	altme.exe	12200	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5801410 PM	altme.exe	12200	QueryInformationVolume	C:\Program 
Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\chat4	SUCCESS	VolumeCreationTime: 
2/12/2010 10:37:05 AM, VolumeSerialNumber: 000E-5EC7, SupportsObjects: 
True, VolumeLabel: 

4:57:04.5803791 PM	altme.exe	12200	QueryAllInformationFile	C:\Program 
Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\chat4	BUFFER OVERFLOW	CreationTime: 
2/21/2010 8:18:23 PM, LastAccessTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, LastWriteTime: 
9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, ChangeTime: 9/25/2010 4:57:04 PM, FileAttributes: 
A, AllocationSize: 0, EndOfFile: 0, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: 
False, Directory: False, IndexNumber: 0x100000000dadf, EaSize: 0, 
Access: Generic Write, Read Attributes, Position: 0, Mode: Sequential 
Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, AlignmentRequirement: Word

4:57:04.5807059 PM	altme.exe	12200	WriteFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\chat4	SUCCESS	Offset: 
0, Length: 2,206

4:57:04.5810769 PM	altme.exe	12200	CloseFile	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\chat4	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.5811630 PM	altme.exe	12200	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\Program Files\altme\worlds\nakakihara\chat\chat4	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.6485821 PM	altme.exe	12200	QueryOpen	C:\WINDOWS\system32\msimtf.dll	SUCCESS	CreationTime: 
3/31/2003 5:00:00 AM, LastAccessTime: 9/25/2010 4:56:24 PM, LastWriteTime: 
8/4/2004 12:56:43 AM, ChangeTime: 2/13/2010 12:50:11 AM, AllocationSize: 
159,744, EndOfFile: 159,232, FileAttributes: A

4:57:04.6488903 PM	altme.exe	12200	CreateFile	C:\WINDOWS\system32\msimtf.dll	SUCCESS	Desired 
Access: Execute/Traverse, Synchronize, Disposition: Open, Options: 
Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: 
Read, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened

4:57:04.6493828 PM	altme.exe	12200	CreateFileMapping	C:\WINDOWS\system32\msimtf.dll	SUCCESS	SyncType: 
SyncTypeCreateSection, PageProtection: PAGE_EXECUTE

4:57:04.6494085 PM	altme.exe	12200	QueryStandardInformationFile	C:\WINDOWS\system32\msimtf.dll	SUCCESS	AllocationSize: 
159,744, EndOfFile: 159,232, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, 
Directory: False

4:57:04.6494267 PM	altme.exe	12200	FASTIO_RELEASE_FOR_SECTION_SYNCHRONIZATION	C:\WINDOWS\system32\msimtf.dll	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.6494462 PM	altme.exe	12200	CreateFileMapping	C:\WINDOWS\system32\msimtf.dll	SUCCESS	SyncType: 
SyncTypeOther

4:57:04.6494602 PM	altme.exe	12200	FASTIO_RELEASE_FOR_SECTION_SYNCHRONIZATION	C:\WINDOWS\system32\msimtf.dll	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.6496560 PM	altme.exe	12200	CloseFile	C:\WINDOWS\system32\msimtf.dll	SUCCESS	

4:57:04.6496803 PM	altme.exe	12200	IRP_MJ_CLOSE	C:\WINDOWS\system32\msimtf.dll	SUCCESS

This is very interesting ... I was trying to post to a group and 
got "internet busy ..." so instead of restarting Altme I opened up 
another Altme client and can post merrily away

My original Altme client is still showing "internet busy"!

Wonderful ... Altme is showing me the wrong time too ... and not 
my new daylight savings time

I often see an unchanging "internet busy" message when the computer 
awakes from sleep.

I need to click on the world name, as if I were change worlds, to 
break AltME's trance.

it's a bug

it's not an internet issue at all

I'm not sure Graham. I've never seen that behavior until just now. 
I have two worlds I keep open at all times, and their Internet Busy 
issues almost always coincide with general net issues. Right now 
though, after waking from sleep, one of them is stuck on Internet 
Busy.

I get "stuck on internet busy"  often... 


when I have an issue with it... I just close altme and start a new 
one... it takes 5 seconds so its not a big deal.

ironically.... I just had this problem posting the above ... hahahaha

I'm getting "Internet busy" a lot too.

I've just posted twice privately to Graham, and each time it took 
too long for the message to be echoed back to me, so I switched groups 
to continue reading. After a few minutes, I went back and the message 
had appeared. However, in both instances, my message was not cleared 
from the New message entry area, so I had to clear it manually.

(and again...)

Might be because I have a lot of private messages?

this altme is getting slower and slower ...

I'm seeing that as well Anton.

Who is operating this (REBOL3) AltME world?

I think only RT can say.

Are there are any benchmarks about max. file-size on AltME and number 
of files it can handle?

The "last 300 messages" web display of this world seems to have stalled 
on 28-sep.


If you look at the Cheyenne group, the last message I see is #9050:
    http://host4.altme.com/altweb/rebol3/chat495.html

Compare with the full archive: it has 20+ newer posts:
    http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp495x9050

Why you don't use style="white-space: pre;" in the message area on 
the web as it's in AltME?

Sorry.. it's host4.altme.comm not rebol.org.

Under Ubuntu10.04, the function "copy to the clipboard" is local 
to ALTME only, This means that I cannot use it to copy an url or 
a text to another program or document. Any correction ?

Copying to the clipboard in AltME goes to linux's X clipboard - this 
one is pasted from by middle-clicking the mouse.

And the opposite direction, hilighted text outside of AltME is automatically 
copied to the X clipboard, which can then be pasted here

Thank you from a linux newcomer ;-)

I think I need to get a Graham2 account ... posting PMs is taking 
over 10 seconds to what seems like a minute sometimes.

or just rename your personal pm file, make it empty ... will that 
resync the old one?

I'll set you up a second account for testing Graham.

48 seconds to post a PM to Sunanda :(

I also have a fairly large private messages file.

Try with someone who does not -- say a Hello message to a new member.

2 minutes to send "ok" to Gregg.

It only takes 1.2 seconds for light to travel from earth to the moon!

I have maybe 30 private messages in total, if you want to check