World: r3wp

it's not an internet issue at all

I'm not sure Graham. I've never seen that behavior until just now. 
I have two worlds I keep open at all times, and their Internet Busy 
issues almost always coincide with general net issues. Right now 
though, after waking from sleep, one of them is stuck on Internet 
Busy.

I get "stuck on internet busy"  often... 


when I have an issue with it... I just close altme and start a new 
one... it takes 5 seconds so its not a big deal.

ironically.... I just had this problem posting the above ... hahahaha

I'm getting "Internet busy" a lot too.

I've just posted twice privately to Graham, and each time it took 
too long for the message to be echoed back to me, so I switched groups 
to continue reading. After a few minutes, I went back and the message 
had appeared. However, in both instances, my message was not cleared 
from the New message entry area, so I had to clear it manually.

(and again...)

Might be because I have a lot of private messages?

this altme is getting slower and slower ...

I'm seeing that as well Anton.

Who is operating this (REBOL3) AltME world?

I think only RT can say.

Are there are any benchmarks about max. file-size on AltME and number 
of files it can handle?

The "last 300 messages" web display of this world seems to have stalled 
on 28-sep.


If you look at the Cheyenne group, the last message I see is #9050:
    http://host4.altme.com/altweb/rebol3/chat495.html

Compare with the full archive: it has 20+ newer posts:
    http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp495x9050

Why you don't use style="white-space: pre;" in the message area on 
the web as it's in AltME?

Sorry.. it's host4.altme.comm not rebol.org.

Under Ubuntu10.04, the function "copy to the clipboard" is local 
to ALTME only, This means that I cannot use it to copy an url or 
a text to another program or document. Any correction ?

Copying to the clipboard in AltME goes to linux's X clipboard - this 
one is pasted from by middle-clicking the mouse.

And the opposite direction, hilighted text outside of AltME is automatically 
copied to the X clipboard, which can then be pasted here

Thank you from a linux newcomer ;-)

I think I need to get a Graham2 account ... posting PMs is taking 
over 10 seconds to what seems like a minute sometimes.

or just rename your personal pm file, make it empty ... will that 
resync the old one?

I'll set you up a second account for testing Graham.

48 seconds to post a PM to Sunanda :(

I also have a fairly large private messages file.

Try with someone who does not -- say a Hello message to a new member.

2 minutes to send "ok" to Gregg.

It only takes 1.2 seconds for light to travel from earth to the moon!

I have maybe 30 private messages in total, if you want to check

That suggests Gregg is on Venus.

lol

AltME is REALLY REALLY slow for me.

Sunanda is from Mars

What's the problem .. flat files?

its become slow for everyone.  is it time to start up a new world... 
or update the server its running on?

PM 100 seconds to Izkata

if we do make a new world, I'd name it differently than just going 
to rebol4... its misleading.

so it doesn't seem to mean a PM message store issue

Debugging without the source is a little silly

Very slow for me right now. Inconsistently so though. I doubt it's 
flat files at fault. I think it's the sync/diff/publish model that 
doesn't scale. Only a guess since I don't have the code.

What's wrong with Rebol4?  It'll keep all the worlds in alphabetical 
order!

I think when people PM it bogs down the whole server throughput, 
cause its effectively sending MBs of data through the net.

or is it?

maybe use Git as the basis for a new chat system

the number at the end gives the impression that its a world to speak 
about that version of rebol.

the R3 chat architecture is VERY nice... it just needs a GUI client.

We could rename to somethin like REBOL-Darknet or something, which 
makes it more interesting to people.

I was going to propose  REBOL-devnet   :-)

I'm cool with that too.

how about Rebol-and-no-trolls-world

lol

Well, I'd imagine that this is a major problem for Altme ... so Carl 
will want to fix it.