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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

Maxim
14-Oct-2010
[4977x2]
I just had a VERY strange problem in altme... its the second time 
this week and its never happened before...


I stopped receiving notifications from altme, but it was still linked 
in, and not reporting Internet busy....
I just did a logout/login and saw that 7 groups had new messages 
in them  !!!
Pekr
15-Oct-2010
[4979]
yes, it happens here too. I think that there might be "internet busy" 
for a while, but then altme reconnects, but does not receive new 
messages (just speculation, not observation)
Maxim
15-Oct-2010
[4980]
the strange thing is that pn both occasions I remember hearing a 
new message "ping" and there being nothing new... which is a bit 
strange...
Sunanda
15-Oct-2010
[4981]
Maxim -- I see that regularly....It's the remnants of the old resync 
bug.

Luckily, logging off and back in seems to resync correctly -- not 
like the old days when getting groups to sync properly was capricious.

And sometimes, you'll see the All Groups heading in red, but no group 
heading below it is in red. It's like a phantom group has just received 
a message from Jim Phelps.
Pekr
15-Oct-2010
[4982]
uh oh, belongs to Vent, but - damned, I lost my private messages 
too :-)
Maxim
15-Oct-2010
[4983]
(we probably all did)
Sunanda
15-Oct-2010
[4984]
I still have all my private messages - so the victimise-user config 
setting must still be below my threshhold.
Sympathies to those who lost theirs.
Pekr
15-Oct-2010
[4985]
Sunanda - so back-it-up promplty, maybe you will follow us with next 
restart of AltME - one never knows its magic suprises:-)
Maxim
15-Oct-2010
[4986]
at least my PM chat is now really quick  ;-)
Pekr
15-Oct-2010
[4987]
:-)
Sunanda
15-Oct-2010
[4988]
Good advice, Petr!
Max, Petr -- I've just sent you each a test PM. Did you get them?
Pekr
15-Oct-2010
[4989]
hmm, strange - I received your PM, but your name in the list was 
not in red letters ....
Maxim
15-Oct-2010
[4990]
same here...
Sunanda
15-Oct-2010
[4991]
Strange ... I saw red from both of you.

Did my name float to the top of the list, or was it buried a long 
way down?
Pekr
15-Oct-2010
[4992x4]
It was at the top of the list.
I believe subsequent posts will be red ... try to send a ping to 
me ....
OK, it works ...
That way, we can miss if someone contacts us. So the urge is to check 
if some name is at the top of the list, and better check from time 
to time ....
Sunanda
15-Oct-2010
[4996]
Yep -- both Max and Petr confirm that 2nd message returns the red. 
So the sync problem seems to resolve itself.

But, as Petr says, we should all check the top few in our lists in 
case there are un-red messages unread.
Maxim
15-Oct-2010
[4997]
pekr... sent you one...
Pekr
15-Oct-2010
[4998x2]
ok, not marked as red ....
this is strange ... there's no new client, so how is that it did 
not happen in the past? Or just maybe some old bug, which just popped-up 
under new conditions we got into ...
Gabriele
15-Oct-2010
[5000x2]
what i have noticed is that groups that were "lost" did not become 
red with new messages. if you have lost private messages, maybe that 
is what is happening as well.
it seems I still have my private messages, not sure if they'll disappear 
next time someone writes to me :) I have a backup anyway.
Gregg
15-Oct-2010
[5002]
My private messages are all gone too. Due to system changes, my altme 
backup is 6 months old.
Tomc
20-Oct-2010
[5003]
Note to self. Do not leave anymore private notes to self !
Maxim
20-Oct-2010
[5004]
lost?
Tomc
20-Oct-2010
[5005]
no but I should not risk it untill I have my own backup,  I use it 
as a  sort of  distributed note pad
Reichart
21-Oct-2010
[5006]
Tomc, wise.


I use Qtask since I know the notes will be there, or Qtask's Scratchpad.

Every time a computer crashes, or my celll phone resets, I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO 
happy.
Reichart
22-Oct-2010
[5007]
I'm actually getting a new bug.  I see teh "All groups" RED, but 
I have read everything.  Started a couple of days ago.s
GrahamC
22-Oct-2010
[5008]
so reset the red flag ?
Maxim
24-Oct-2010
[5009]
attn worldmasters: xavier needs his password reset,  please send 
new password to [xavierdebecq-:-gmail-:-com]
Reichart
24-Oct-2010
[5010]
Done.
Maxim
24-Oct-2010
[5011]
thx
amacleod
27-Oct-2010
[5012]
Does the send email work for esmtp in altme. I do not see the proper 
settings...am I missing something?
Gregg
27-Oct-2010
[5013x2]
I don't believe it works.
I did a quick test here, which failed, but is hardly full proof.
Dockimbel
27-Oct-2010
[5015]
I've lost all my PM in this AltMe world too...I'm glad I did a full 
backup of this world files when someone first mentioned the issue. 
Can't AltMe admins restore them from backups?
Gregg
27-Oct-2010
[5016]
We hope so. Gabriele has full backups as well, but no word from RT 
on whether this is going to happen.
Anton
28-Oct-2010
[5017]
My personal chat file was reset too (size changed from 1MB to 1KB). 
Luckily I also backed it up 10 days ago, after reading the reports 
here.
Maxim
28-Oct-2010
[5018]
this is starting to be ridiculous.
Izkata
28-Oct-2010
[5019]
It is extremely unnerving that this appears to have started shortly 
after I upgraded which version of AltME I was using
Maxim
28-Oct-2010
[5020]
its the server that's clearing groups. the clients just syncs them
Izkata
28-Oct-2010
[5021]
I know, it just seems odd
Maxim
28-Oct-2010
[5022]
I think we need to create a dedicated group for Custom Gob Renderers... 
there will be a lot of discussion and support or HW bug tracking 
about it too.
Pekr
29-Oct-2010
[5023]
just make it general please. Cyphre used some other method for acceleration, 
and we should consider various possible available solutions, look 
also at how Flash is doing it, etc. methods ...
Maxim
29-Oct-2010
[5024]
something like REBOL3! low-level gfx  could be ok,

note this isn't about discussing how to use view or a gui.


this really is for talking about rendering, graphic pipelines, agg 
C code, gfx engines, CGRs, stuff like that.
Gregg
29-Oct-2010
[5025]
I thought we had a Graphics group at one point, but maybe not.
Maxim
29-Oct-2010
[5026]
this is specific for R3 architecture and host-kit related stuff  
its not about using graphics in rebol, its about building the graphics 
engines.