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[!AltME] Discussion about AltME

Pekr
18-Nov-2010
[5174]
as an ordinary user. But I am a world master ...
Izkata
18-Nov-2010
[5175]
Kaj:  That's a symptom of linux, not of AltME.  See https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79812

(AltME uses the X clipboard, the same one used when highlighting 
text)
Kaj
18-Nov-2010
[5176x2]
It's a symptom of both. Other Linux apps also act horribly, but not 
that horrible
Petr, it's a big security hole, because the AltME server uses a multitude 
of the file size in memory during the upload, which can easily crash 
the server and at least overloads the swap space
Anton
19-Nov-2010
[5178]
Quite a while back I was confused about the clipboard in Kubuntu. 
I investigated heavily until I understood what was happening, that 
there were two clipboards and how they are used. I think I did a 
small bit of tweaking to Kubuntu settings, but basically it was just 
learning how it worked and practising a bit that cured my confusion. 
I got used to it and don't have much trouble with it in other apps. 
AltME is the exception - it just doesn't copy and paste consistently 
for some reason.
Henrik
19-Nov-2010
[5179]
Does the standard REBOL clipboard:// behave like in AltME?
Anton
19-Nov-2010
[5180x3]
write clipboard:// "hello"  ; Doesn't work on Rebol/View 2.7.7.4.2
Uh!  It does work. (!)  It goes to the middle-click clipboard.
(Did I never try that...?)
Izkata
19-Nov-2010
[5183x2]
AltME works, as long as you remember it goes to the X clipboard. 
 Gtk/etc applications access it with highlight/middle click, while 
AltME uses Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V.

The other linux clipboard (can't remember what supplies it) is accessed 
by Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V in Gtk/etc applications.  This one, AltME and Rebol 
can't access.
I have no idea how they interact if run through WINE, I avoid using 
it as much as possible
Gregg
19-Nov-2010
[5185]
The clipboard under Windows doesn't always work consistently either.
Maxim
19-Nov-2010
[5186]
(in altme!)
Kaj
19-Nov-2010
[5187]
Windows doesn't work consistently, period, but that's just a force 
of nature ;-)
Gregg
19-Nov-2010
[5188]
REBOL's clipboard interface can be inconsistent even outside of AltMe.
Maxim
19-Nov-2010
[5189x2]
really? I've never had problems.
though in qtask, I discovered, that if you switch window and come 
back to altme, the copy may work the first time.


the focal support in R2 sucks.  its just weirdly implemented and 
it creates many bugs, especially since most faces share their para 
object by default.


I've added this to my style init  in many new styles:  [para: make 
para []]
Rebolek
21-Nov-2010
[5191]
All my private discussion with one user in this world that hasn't 
take place today dissappeared just now. Only today's messages left, 
while ten minutes ago, there were all messages.
Gregg
22-Nov-2010
[5192]
Welcome to the freedom of being reborn. Forget your past and start 
fresh. I'm just a few weeks old now myself.
BrianH
2-Dec-2010
[5193]
An Android group would be helpful. With the tagline "Development 
for Android with REBOL".
Pekr
2-Dec-2010
[5194x2]
we can use hostkit temporarily, no? Or extensions?
or Porting R3
BrianH
2-Dec-2010
[5196]
It would also be a good place to discuss using REBOL to generate 
apps in Java (often easier than writing it directly in my experience).
Gregg
3-Dec-2010
[5197]
Done.
nve
8-Dec-2010
[5198x3]
Does someone report the presentation bug of long url ?
Sorry my english explanation...
But let's show an exmple :


http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi?thread=%3C26Nov2010120307258032100%3E
The link is working...

But it is written correctly in blue with hyperlink only http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi?thread=%3C26Nov20101203072
and to the end of url it is in black...
But short URL, no problem 
http://www.rebol.com
Reichart
8-Dec-2010
[5201]
Yup, known, well....
Oldes
8-Dec-2010
[5202]
The solution is known as well - add enter for each 40 chars of the 
URL length :)
Maxim
9-Dec-2010
[5203x2]
why aren't all of the !REBOL3 groups web-public?  I think they are 
the best source of news for what is going on with R3 right now.
for example, the host-kit and extensions group are the best reference 
for someone wanting to get up to speed.  it has discussions and a 
few web links on further on-line resources which some of us have 
posted.
Sunanda
9-Dec-2010
[5205]
Good points, Max.

Given posts-to-date have been made on the assumption that they are 
not [web public], we'd need some general agreement from the contributors 
(or at least no vetos) before transitioning to web public.
So.....anyone object?
Oldes
9-Dec-2010
[5206]
I agree with Maxim, that it should be public.
Sunanda
10-Dec-2010
[5207]
!REBOL3 Gui is now [web-public] -- may take an hour for the content 
to fully apear on REBOL.org.

I'll change the others in the next couple of days, unless there are 
any objections.
DKnell
16-Dec-2010
[5208]
if I move my altme folder to another windows installation will it 
still work fine?  sorry for the nOOb question
Henrik
16-Dec-2010
[5209]
it should work, yes
DKnell
16-Dec-2010
[5210x2]
do I need to copy any other files too?
I'm just amazed the program and data all fit in 52.5mb
Henrik
16-Dec-2010
[5212x2]
copy: I don't think so, just the AltME directory. It's possible that 
you may have trouble starting it from the start menu, if you have 
not installed it first. I'm not sure.
also, you can run several instances simultaneously to the same world, 
so you are free to test it out first.
DKnell
16-Dec-2010
[5214]
ah just need to drag a shortcut, should be easy enough.  This system 
is being formatted thats all and I didn't want to redownload all 
content again
Henrik
16-Dec-2010
[5215]
ok, if you have two machines, you can easily try it out.
DKnell
16-Dec-2010
[5216]
very true
Pekr
16-Dec-2010
[5217x2]
I am using altme from time to time from my USB stick (a bit slow, 
due probably to slow flash disk plus the way how altme relies on 
heavy file access, but still usable), and the only thing I need is 
to just copy it ...
I really like copy&run aproach ...
DKnell
16-Dec-2010
[5219x2]
copied, working fine, although I had to go through the simple installation 
process on other pc.  the exe wouldn't just 'run'  - all data seems 
fine
me too, I am so used to having to try and export stuff and then import 
in a new install
nve
18-Dec-2010
[5221]
Is there a group, interest for REBOL IDE ?
RobertS
27-Dec-2010
[5222]
yes
RobertS
31-Dec-2010
[5223]
Linux 1.2.25 altme in response to click on a URL in a post reports 
copy to clipboard.  Nix occurs on Gnome desktop.  Is this true for 
KDE ?