World: r3wp

Ladislav, I don't see the group discussion

Hmm.. soon...

I cannot define the group, an admin has to do it for us

Already found something missing in the parser

a braced-string {...} mays contain breaced-strings

OT alert  !!! this is the altme group  ;-)

OK, switching to the "All" group temporarily

Not wanting to be particularly picky, but could someone please rename 
to "REBOL syntax" group to "REBOL Syntax". Trying to be consistent 
with "title case" used in other group titles .... Thanks in advance 
and thanks a lot :)

... the* "REBOL syntax" group to "REBOL Syntax". (Whenever one is 
nitpicky about such things, typos strike down hard ...)

isnt' it already "REBOL Syntax"?

The mighty AltME elves work quickly!

Are we at risk of losing this world since Carl seems to have disappeared 
again?

Do we have a contingency plan if this world goes down?

#rebol on freenode ;-)

No history on freenode

I can look at hosting a world.

Can setup a server also on EC2

Dunno if another world would help the situation any. The world name 
server is presumably also at risk

That's not operated by Carl, at least, no?

Ah...I forgot that Carl runs Altme now

If not Carl, then who?

Reichart used to own safeworlds.... but i thought it got taken over 
by Carl ??

There's no additional personnel involved?

I thought the AltME core servers are still operated by a another 
entity ...

The name server was supposed to be distributed over the world, but 
once when it was down it turned out that it runs on one DSL line

Not privy to this information so speculation

as I recall .... Reichart used to host the servers ... but that changed

So, we do have a single point of failure here...and no recovery plan

Yup

Are there no paying customers for AltME left?

Were there ever?

There may well be but does that change things?

We've been bitten by closed source Rebol and we rely on closed source 
altme :(

Kaj: no idea.

Yup again

IRC lacks a good history

and threads

AltME "customers" would make a difference in the kind of pressure 
exerted when the name server goes down vs when "just" the REBOL3 
world goes down.

We are paying customers for SDk ... but have no special access

Do you know of anyone who has been able to pressure RT?

Personally, no.

But I got the impression that the last R2 release (2.7.8 in Jan 2011) 
was due to such external pressure.

Yes, Jaime was able once upon a time

Better call him back, then :-)

no callbacks

Finding one of the supposed "source escrow" customers would also 
be a worthy thing :)

Anyone have a proposal for a backup plan ...??

The option was said to be available. Doesn't mean anyone took it

We could ask AMD ...they used iOS at one stage

Anyway something to think about ....